How is that an idea of what the cause of suicide is? Where is the explanation of cause there? Because I gave an explanation of the cause. So far, all you've done is play coy.
im going to assume the complete misinterpretation is genuine and not just strawmanning
no, i think that the high suicide rates being exclusively due to mistreatment is something you pulled out your ass, especially since the response to 'do you have proof' was not 'yes, here you go'
Yes, but that’s not due to autism, that’s due to the way society treats autistic people
must be me, but i read that as pretty explicit and unambiguously exclusive language
And I admitted I didn’t have evidence, so I have no idea why you’re complaining about me not having evidence.
because i think going 'well thats wrong, heres whats actually happening' with 0 evidence is actually a pretty weird thing to do, as is maintaining that it just has to be true when challenged
Yes, it must be you. If I had meant it to be exclusive, I would have said "that is not solely due to autism, that is solely due to the way society treats autistic people"
But please, continue to berate me for not having the evidence I admit I don't have. I'm sure that will lead to productive discussion.
i doubt there was any chance of a productive discussion past ‘well thats wrong, heres whats actually happening’ with 0 evidence and maintaining that it just has to be true when challenged
im doing this so folks reading this thread at least get the added context of the above being a complete unsourced guess
"What kind of fool says that sort of thing without evidence?"
"Me, I guess."
"Ha! I knew you had no evidence!"
Is this going to continue ad nauseam or do you have a point besides the fact that I said something I don't have evidence for? Because I think the folks reading this thread might have glommed on to the fact that I have no evidence at this point.
How is that an idea of what the cause of suicide is? Where is the explanation of cause there? Because I gave an explanation of the cause. So far, all you've done is play coy.
you didnt give an explanation of the cause, you seemingly pulled something out your ass and didnt like when i didnt immediately accept it as fact
You think the widespread mistreatment of autistic people is something I invented? Really?
im going to assume the complete misinterpretation is genuine and not just strawmanning
no, i think that the high suicide rates being exclusively due to mistreatment is something you pulled out your ass, especially since the response to 'do you have proof' was not 'yes, here you go'
I never said anything about it being exclusively due to mistreatment. That is something you made up.
And I admitted I didn't have evidence, so I have no idea why you're complaining about me not having evidence.
must be me, but i read that as pretty explicit and unambiguously exclusive language
because i think going 'well thats wrong, heres whats actually happening' with 0 evidence is actually a pretty weird thing to do, as is maintaining that it just has to be true when challenged
Yes, it must be you. If I had meant it to be exclusive, I would have said "that is not solely due to autism, that is solely due to the way society treats autistic people"
But please, continue to berate me for not having the evidence I admit I don't have. I'm sure that will lead to productive discussion.
i doubt there was any chance of a productive discussion past ‘well thats wrong, heres whats actually happening’ with 0 evidence and maintaining that it just has to be true when challenged
im doing this so folks reading this thread at least get the added context of the above being a complete unsourced guess
Yep, there it is.
"I have no evidence."
"You idiot! You have no evidence!"
"I know. I said I have no evidence."
"What kind of fool says that sort of thing without evidence?"
"Me, I guess."
"Ha! I knew you had no evidence!"
Is this going to continue ad nauseam or do you have a point besides the fact that I said something I don't have evidence for? Because I think the folks reading this thread might have glommed on to the fact that I have no evidence at this point.