The consumption is the point. They just want candy not a meal. They want fucking marvelslop not Cinema.
Inb4 let people enjoy things, the mindset on display is a perfect member of capitalist society. A mindless consumption machine.
The consumption is the point. They just want candy not a meal. They want fucking marvelslop not Cinema.
Inb4 let people enjoy things, the mindset on display is a perfect member of capitalist society. A mindless consumption machine.
What an individualistic attitude towards it.
Do you really think these individual, random fuckers have any power over what kind of content they are really exposed to, what kind of media is socially acceptable?
Yes. I also despise marvel and will say that whenever I want. But the random individuals that make it up aren’t deserving of actual hatred or mockery for enjoying it. Their friends enjoy it. Their friends of friends enjoy it. I’m not saying we should just “let people enjoy things”, I’m saying that our criticisms of the things need to be of the things themselves, and not “infantile mannerisms” or weird moralistic statements about people who fundamentally only really watch this stuff because all their friends talk about it and they want to be fun and cool to their friends.
It is certainly your right to despise others and have whatever feelings you have about them, but it is not your right to express hatred or ridicule them and it is not revolutionary or cool to do it all the time. We are not
liberals who “say whatever we want” because it feels good to dunk on the “unenlightened, unwashed masses”. We are socialists who are supposed to actually understand those masses and give them what they want. We are not preachers, we are teachers.
The criticism of Marvel has, frankly, reached a stagnant stage. It is not intense enough. This anger directed towards individual “Disney adults” is fundamentally a misdirection, an individualization of a social issue, a complete stop in the development of any truly revolutionary ideas that could come from our line of criticism.
Yes, dunking on libs who like marvel is extremely fun. But it’s just as brainless and non-constructive as the movies themselves. We don’t actually learn anything from it. We don’t help anything. We like to think we’re decreasing the power of the Marvel panopticon ever so slightly, but our online negging is likely meaningless in the face of the bare truth that these people barely have anything else to live for. Without Marvel slop, they would have nothing, live in a completely barren world with no color or purpose. And it is tempting to despise them for that, to say that we are different because some element of ourselves makes us special and superior.
But what element? Is it mental, physical?
I don’t think so. I think it’s all about social circumstance, and while I might be uniquely lib for this, the magic of bullying people is sort of taken away when I realize that I’m not actually doing some virtuous, revolutionary act. It just feels like kicking a malnutritioned puppy.
Nope. Nobody has any power over what conditions they arise in, doesn’t change the end results of what they are. I wouldn’t spare a nazi the wall because of the conditions of 20th century Germany molded them, and I would condemn a zionist even if they were born in Israel and brainwashed into it. You can critique individual symptoms and representations of the odious whole. Obviously those are much more serious crimes, but the same logic applies.
Yeah they are, sure. Why are you so defensive about this and not the other 1000 things we mock and hate people for on hexbear dot net?
You obviously haven’t seen me post at all, literally every time some sort of mockery about fundamentally harmless behavior comes up I’ve gotten pissed about it. Literally the only reason I don’t bring it up all the time is because people usually restrain themselves to only dunking on absolute ghouls for being absolute ghouls.
Also watching shitty superhero movies is not even remotely comparable to being a fucking active murderer of minorities, Jesus Christ
turning all of the art of film into artless fascist dreck is not harmless, and it’s turned a generation of adults into blithering children. It’s as contemptible as adults who still frame their worldview in harry potter. It’s childish and obscene and reflective of deep problems in society, as I said.
I said the severity of the crimes is not the same.
I never said that Marvel was harmless. It’s disingenuous to even imply I did. The movies are literally military propaganda.
This random Reddit user watching it is harmless, though, or at least, our negging doesn’t reduce the harm. Our insults are nothing but an annoyance that’s trying to pierce an actual social institution of people who “enjoy” (said loosely due to the “quality” of the films) Disney’s media.
These people aren’t brainless, idiotic ghouls who are just going along mindlessly with what they know. They got here because there are a ridiculous number of social pressures that lead people into becoming obsessed with Marvel.
It’s probably one of the only things they talk to their friends about, and not just because they themselves bring it up, but because it’s one of the only forms of shared experience that people have these days, as horrifying as that is. It’s the same thing as celebrities and news stories about them. Just mindless slop that has no real bearing on reality. But people still stay up to date on it because all their friends and their entire social network seems to care about it.
Every single one of these things are all things that insults have no power over. We like to say bullying works, but this is where it’s power ends. Disney has such an intense stranglehold on the West’s culture that all an insult to a person who consumes their content does is just hurt them a little without even remotely changing their behavior.
Think think blaming this exclusively on Marvel movies seems more than a bit reductive.
Ooh reductive eh? My shitpost was reductive? You want me to write a Marxist thesis every time I critique some dumb lib shit in our society?
Very telling that as soon as treat critiques come up half of hexbear shitposters who have no problem throwing around insults and reductive statements in every other scenario get very serious and somber and demand a thesis. It’s like when family members of cops or troops demand very serious Marxist analysis before we mock da troops. No. I don’t care about your hang ups
Dragging treats is truly the treats of this site. You make the mildest of treat-sympathetic statement and the reaction is far more over the top than what you get from the typical treat chaser.
Treat chaser quotes in this very thread:
WHAT TREAT!??? WHAT TREAT!??? I HAVE NO CONNECTION TO MARVEL, I’VE SAID THAT SO MANY TIMES? WHAT FUCKING TREAT AM I DEFENDING?? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY “TREAT” IM DEFENDING IS MY OWN FUCKING DESIRE FOR INNOCENT RANDOM PEOPLE NOT TO BE INSULTED AND IF THAT MAKES ME A TREAT DEFENDER THAN IM FUCKING PROUD OF IT IF HAVING FUCKING EMPATHY, EVEN FOR RANDOM FUCKERS WHO LIKE SHOWS I HATE, MAKES ME A TREAT DEFENDER, THEN I’LL BE A TREAT DEFENDER AS MUCH AS I FUCKING WANT, AND YOU’LL FUCKING DEAL WITH IT
I wasn’t even defending treats bro, I fucking hate marvel movies (except Spider-Man, I’ll admit I like Spider-Man), was just saying you were being reductive, which even you admitted was true you just got pissy at me for pointing it out.