Remember when Steven Crowder had a complete meltdown because his wife didn’t need his permission to file for divorce from his abusive-ass? This is the average conservative mindset. They hate that women have autonomy. It’s why they’re doing everything they can to elect people that will reverse women’s rights. I don’t blame women at all for refusing to date or marry these misogynistic losers.
Yep, they’re actually attacking no-fault divorce because of that.
Wait, aren’t the female stars of the Republican party divorced? How can that be because they are all for submissive stay-at-home wives.
It’s the party of rules for thee and not me.
I’m pretty sure basically all of them would vote for a bill that ends women’s suffrage.
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As a man, I’d never even consider dating a woman on the right, and there’s far less at stake for me than a woman dating a conservative. This idea that decent people should enter into relationships, romantic or otherwise, with shit stains is absurd.
I’m shocked at the number of women who are completely okay with what the Republican Party wants to do to them.
I mean, I’m pretty sure if they had their way, their hunting dog’s would actually have more rights than women,
Yeah, the hunting dog would at least be able to play basketball
There’s nothing in the Constitution that says dogs can’t play basketball! We’ve been over this; there’s a series of documentaries about it.
Conservative women are fine as hell, but I see your point.
Lmao no they ain’t. You ever seen Marjorie Taylor Greene? I’m pretty sure she’s so vehemently anti-trans because people always mistake her for being trans, and that pisses her off. She doesn’t even look trans, she looks far far more like a man than any MTF could even if they tried, she’s just… a hairless gorilla.
I’m not even trying to body shame, I’m just saying she is definitely not aligned with societal standards for how women should look (not even close), and that’s something I see with a large amount of conservative women. There’s this one popular-with-conservatives woman on Twitter who’s name I forgot who just goes around saying how women should be in the kitchen and how we should genocide fat women, and it’s so clearly because she’s annorexic and extremely conventionally unattractive so she feels the only way to appease to men and seem attractive to them is to give up her dignity + shame others for not having the only “good” quality she sees in herself (being skinny). It’s kind of sad but this is probably the most common shtick you see with popular conservative women.
Seeing one person or even a few people that have a certain quality that are from a certain group doesn’t mean every person from that group has that quality. There’s a lot of ugly Republicans and a few attractive ones.
You ever seen Marjorie Taylor Greene?
To quote someone else (apparently on her Facebook page), “In hindsight, crossing horse, demon and Nazi DNA was probably a bad idea.”
There’s this one popular-with-conservatives woman on Twitter who’s name I forgot who just goes around saying how women should be in the kitchen and how we should genocide fat women, and it’s so clearly because she’s annorexic and extremely conventionally unattractive so she feels the only way to appease to men and seem attractive to them is to give up her dignity + shame others for not having the only “good” quality she sees in herself (being skinny).
You’re probably thinking of Ann Coulter. 🤮
Besides the exceptions even the attractive ones are just ‘your friends mom’ levels of attractive. Which I’m not shaming for and there’s nothing wrong with that but it’s just an observation.
I’m talking about their constituency.
Certainly not all or even most of them are fine, but the ones who are got it goin’ on.
I’ve personally found the most conventionally attractive socialists to be wayyy hotter but that’s just my experience.
I don’t find a never-ending parade of blonde white women that Conservatives seem to have on offer to be especially attractive.
Yeah man, to each their own.
Variety is the spice of life!
It’s a mega-karen haircut. Stories have been told about that for generations, and I always thought it was a myth. But here it is, as scary as the stores described and as dangerous as the ancestors warned.
The cute mormon girl from southern Idaho may look fine but so does a PBY Catilina doesnt mean id stick my dick in either.
Edit: In hindsight id probably stick my dick in a PBY Catilina. But I may as well be celibate around a mormon chick they are all walking batshit insanity.
I’m convinced there’s an attractiveness requirement for Mormon women who knock on doors. Every year or so, two incredibly good-looking women knock on my door to do their thing. It probably makes me the asshole, but I feel slightly more guilty closing my door in their faces than I would if they weren’t so hot. I give them my attention and only close the door after politely repeating “no thanks, I’m not interested in your joy” at least three times. I am a Jew after all—we love our thrice denials.
You are mistaken. We call them White Trash.
Aw, that’s mean.
So women don’t want men that vote to strip them of their rights and want as much control over them as possible? Color me shocked…
I didn’t actually see any raw data that supported it. They noted that young people are getting more divided but that is true of the population as a whole. They also noted that marriage rates were down but they have been trending down for decades.
I would have liked to see direct evidence, not inferred, that there are these giant ones of young liberal girls who are single and looking.
I suspect this is from the same group that thinks slavery was beneficial for the slave too.
The free market decided. It says ‘no’.
I mean if a woman wants to marry a person who is a Trump supporter, then while I question her sanity… Okay I guess? 🤷♂️
But this idea that women are not marrying Trump supporters because of “social pressure” just sounds to me like another of the long line of “women are weak and can’t make their own decisions” arguments.
But then again what can you expect from conservatives who can only think in terms of binaries?
But then again what can you expect from conservatives who can only think in terms of binaries?
The irony in this statement is subtle but quite delightful.
Only if you consider the word “who” to not be a qualifier.
I think I should have stated “whom” to remove the qualifier ambiguity.
I hate using whom but in this case it was probably needed.
That’s a fair point.
So you’re saying it can be taken in two different ways…
On review I think this is one of the few times that “whom” would be more appropriate.
No, not even a little bit. “Who” is the subject of the relative clause. “Whom” would be completely incorrect.
Thank you for the clarification. I appreciate your help.
Because I would only support religious education if it adhered to my viewpoint while claiming conservatives can only see binary viewpoints?
Or because I have a binary view point of conservatives while at the same time levelling this against them?
Both are ironic in some sense.
The latter
Conservatives are a monolith. If you don’t fall in line and do what the party wants, they attack you, primary you, and cast you out.
This is how the Nazis got regular people to commit to atrocities.
Tell me you’ve never spent any time around conservatives without telling me you’ve never spent any time around conservatives.
No, your immediate family doesn’t count.
However I would counter with the point that those with a binary view point must be debated in like.
How can I debate the grey with a person who cannot see it?
You realize that such a debate is impossible to win, right?
Winning a debate should not be the goal. It should be to progress disclosure and help finding some resemblance of “truth”.
Hence why I asked which of the two possible ironic statements I made you were asking about.
I’m wrong all the time. But discourse helps us all to learn.
Most enlightened Lemmy user I’ve met in a while.
The more serious argument comes from their insistence that cross-political marriages will help save the nation from “the Trump-era divisions” and social ills stemming from men’s misogyny. […] Worse, it shifts responsibility for male misbehavior onto women. The blame for MAGA is subtly moved away from those who are perpetuating the problem, meaning Trump’s predominantly male voters, onto the shoulders of Democratic women who have been doing everything right all along. It’s reminiscent of the way women’s hemlines are blamed for male violence or the way mothers are blamed for what their grown sons choose to do. It feels easier to blame women than to hold men accountable.
I’m so fucking tired of people (consciously or unconsciously) expecting women to make the effort, make the sacrifice, to “fix things”.
Trying to get men who already think women are inferior to listen to their liberal wives is a joke.
Which is why even just making the effort feels fruitless. There are incredibly few people in my life who would’ve been worth the massive amount of effort and pain and sheer dedication this kind of conversion requires.
There are incredibly few people in my life who would’ve been worth the massive amount of effort and pain and sheer dedication this kind of conversion requires.
PREACH! I had to cut my sister out of my life because of her stupid MAGA husband. I can’t even begin to imagine how much work it would take to pull someone back from far right to just centrist let alone any more left than that.
I’m so fucking tired of people (consciously or unconsciously) expecting women to make the effort, make the sacrifice, to “fix things”.
And what would that even look like? Dragging a bunch of men who have voluntarily rolled back their entire worldview to 1940 (or worse) kicking and screaming into some semblance of modern rational thought? How does one do that, and why is it the job of women to do it?
Lmao.
The snowflakes have to use an editorial board because they are repugnant, worthless losers who offer nothing to a mate.
Truly, they are alpha males.
Conflating farting loudly on purpose with voting for Trump is really unfair for those of us who fart loudly on purpose. My farts never took away the right to get an abortion.
trying to conflate dangerous political stances with harmless social faux-pass is a normalization technique used by the far right pretty often.
yeah voting for policies that de facto decrease the life quality of a large number of people, needlessly, is the same as farting in public. how cute and quirky.
Also? If the target audience is… five years old…. It’s actually comedic genius.
(Edit to clarify… the farting. Not any flirtation. Though, I’m sure single mothers might appreciate someone willing to entertain their kid for a bit. Maybe. 50/50 odds you get maced.)
No but one of Mary Anne MacLeod’s did
This looked clever, but I didn’t get the reference. Glad I looked it up. :)
“If attitudes don’t shift, a political dating mismatch will threaten marriage,” declared a recent headline of a Washington Post column by the editorial board.
Seems to me like Trump voters need to shift their attitudes.
Right? In what world do we blame the people choosing not to marry assholes than the assholes themselves?
Everyone remember this post next time you find yourselves wondering where incels got the idea that they’re entitled to women’s affection without any effort on their own part.
That bit you quoted shows just how entitled and out of touch the phantom writer is. Who the fuck cares if marriage is “threatened”?
Pretty sure there’s tons of people living happy lives without marriage. It’s not the 1950s anymore and that doesn’t need to be the ultimate goal for everyone.
Threaten marriage…
Why the hell should we protect marriage like it’s an animal in danger of going extinct? It’s just a custom. I know a lot of people who have neen together for over a decade as a couple perfectly happy to never marry and they are often the strongest and most long lived couplings I know.
Shouldn’t we just be advocating for the happiness of people and not whether or not a bit of legal paper is signed as a meteic of success?
Sums the article up nicely:
Voting for Trump means backing a man who has been accused of sexual assault by two dozen women, and who a judge and jury deemed responsible for rape. It means backing the man who repeatedly brags that he got Roe v. Wade overturned. In addition, the MAGA media consumed by most Republicans is hardly neutral on the question of sexism. They are all for it, from the tired sexist jokes on Fox News to bizarre internet trends like “tradwives.” For a woman, marrying a Trump supporter isn’t about being with someone who has different views on tax rates. It’s bringing someone into your home who ascribes to an ideology in which you are not fully human.
I don’t even understand this. Shouldn’t people want to be in relationships with people they’re compatible with?
“be more compatible with us while we make no effort”
That sums it up very nicely!
And I think compatible values and worldviews are the most important factor of compatibility. Especially if you raise children. Conservative/regressive values and worldviews are not merely incompatible but antithetical to left leaning values.
When one person believes in equality and the other ranks people in a hierarchy based on e.g., socioeconomic status, identity – meaning one believes all deserve the same rights and the other doesn’t – that is going to be an irreconcilable divide that causes a lot of strife. Especially where those values and worldviews directly influence how you are treated by your spouse.
I would not date a female Republican, considering how far Republicans have sunk under Trump. I am male.
I couldn’t date someone who didn’t have basic respect themselves, and self-respect for a woman and supporting Trump are mutually exclusive positions.
The ones that I see on dating sites are completely brainwashed idiots worshipping “ReAl MeN” and that simply being a liberal (eazy hexbears I’m being loose with my language) makes you “a pussy.” It’s absolutely ridiculous… But yes, I should want to be with that person who thinks I’m pathetic because of my political alignment…
Shout out to all of the other bisexual and GNC men who wouldn’t think of dating a republican woman to avoid the homophobia and scrutiny of their masculinity.
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Oh they want boundaries all right - for everyone else
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You could go as far as to call them…
… Deplorable?
An understatement
It’s funny, aside from sexual preference this is the only barrier to entry for me with dating.
I’ll be on dating app, see a really pretty girl with a profile talking about how much they love God with that conservative tag.
It’s like all thought of sex is instantly abolished.
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I’ve even had this happen with a gay dude. Talking on Discord and suddenly he just blindsides me with QAnon talking points about child trafficking.
It sounds like " QAnon talking points about child trafficking" would be horrible, so not a good topic for conversation anyway?
New band name! Called it.
Deal breakers:
- Wears MAGA hat
- Worships God
- Smokes cigarettes
- Is anti-vaxx
Back when I used dating apps I’d see some women say “swipe the direction of your political affiliation!”. Swiping right was to show interest, left was to indicate disinterest.
I very quickly and happily followed their suggestion
It’s like that old episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, where Larry finally gets with the dream girl (the one his wife gave him a “free pass” for if he could somehow manage to woo her)… and she invites him into her room… and on her bedside table is a framed photo of Dubya.
I don’t know, I’ve encountered christian women who believed in the whole “loophole”-thing, so they only did anal and oral because they were “saving themselves” for marriage. That’s obviously batshit crazy, but as a 22-year old single dude it was pretty hot. I wouldn’t complain today(20 years later) either.
The old poophole loophole.
It’s the sex that God can’t see
I love that song!
When I was dating, my test for Christian women was that I said I wouldn’t go to church with their family on Christmas. The crazy true believers would act like I was talking about strangling grandma. The sane ones would just be confused about why anyone would invite me to church. It was a super interesting and very reliable dichotomy.
Divorce Republicans out of your life. We all know dem isn’t the be all end all, but it ain’t fascism baby
