I agree with the premise that defining one’s gender as “what the other gender doesn’t/can’t do” is limiting and will inevitably conflict as said other gender makes gains, but I disagree that this is an aspect of capitalism.
History is chock full of men bemoaning the current state of manhood and how modern (whatever age that is) man is actually modern woman, regardless of whether they barter, bow to a king, or buy stocks.
In the 18th century, men (like George Washington) wore make-up, frilly clothes, fancy wigs and stockings. Why do they hate our founders so much?
Things like that used to be an expression of wealth and power. Now with commodification and increased productivity, how will they express how powerful, resourceful, and therefore desirable they really are? What’s the differentiation?
how will they express how powerful, resourceful, and therefore desirable they really are?
Well the first step would be to come to terms with how powerless, unresourceful, and therefore undesirable they really are. From there they can take action to become what they want by improving themselves not by comparison with others, but by comparison to where they themselves were the day before.
The idea of exceptionalism is toxic if its not recognized as an ideal to aspire to, but likely never fully achieve. However, the journey there, and your realized gains in the effort are the real payoff. You become a better version of yourself by trying to improve, but circling back to the beginning: no improvement can occur if you don’t recognize and acknowledge where we all start: Powerless and unresourceful.
All of the above applies irrespective of gender. If some men want to hang onto the idea of superiority over women simply because they are men, then they can take their old ideas with them to the dustbin of history.
I overall liked the article, but feel the ending failed and it doesn’t do any better at finding a solution than the Yang article it talks about.
Like many such pronouncements, Yang’s argument supposes that male identity is effectively served up at a cultural condiment bar. Wounded and hostile men can simply order up different core elements of their identities, now that the undifferentiated forces of gender affiliation are granting permission for them to cry, to go to therapy, and have feelings. In lieu of adopting Yang’s model of masculinity as a glorified college elective, many young men gravitate toward Shapiro and Peterson’s masculinist politics of all-purpose cultural affront.
The article then goes on the end basically the same thing…
It’s admittedly hard to envision such a thing in a culture-war discourse so heavily invested in the idea of imperiled maleness, but a good place to start might be a frank acknowledgment of how much of this peril is self-imposed among gender-anxious men. Indeed, pace Reeves and Yang, boys and men in America are not all right—not because women are outearning them or outperforming them in some mythic sphere of gender fluidity. No, American boys and men are suffering because an American culture that outlines how to perform manliness following a solitary, stoic script of violent self-assertion is ruinous. If men relieve themselves from shackles of masochism and chauvinism anchored in this gendered ideology, they might learn that the most crucial role we could play in society is to free ourselves from this fundamentally unrewarding and self-harming image of ourselves
cool, but as mentioned the men that need to hear it won’t be doing that, so it isn’t actually a solution.
this article’s kinda glossing over everything it’s saying. claim after claim with little pausing to explain or cite. I dont know if they meant to say it but they did at least accidentally imply women are being given too much power. And then they quickly move on from that as if it’s a natural given. And some mess talking about economics, and then giving a school shooting as an example that never references economics in any way. They’re kinda just throwing fancy sounding terms haphazardly.
What masculinity crisis?
Explained in literally the first sentence of the article.
So the masculinity crisis is Ben Shapiro whining about the destruction of men? He’s an authority on masculinity now?
If only there was an article that went further into detail on the subject.
If only.
Fine…
… And done.
Dude… why are we using stereotypes as a point of reference? This article is trash. “Men today are anxious about x, y, z”, but what reason do we have to believe that 80 years ago it was any different?
Like the basis of the article seems to be “men were fine until recent gender politics”.
Oh. Another long winded, pretentious diatribe on how the right can’t accept modernism and capitalism caused it all. Jesus fuck get new material.
So… you identify as right?
He is voting for DeSantis apparently. Nuff said coughs facist
Yeah, exactly. Not a shocker at al.
Who’s a better option than DeSantis? Trump? Biden? Lol yeah, I’m voting DeSantis. No fascism involved, just pure logic.
Yes, Biden is a better option than a fascist who thinks kids should learn the good parts of slavery.
A fascist who is openly supported and endorsed by actual Neo-Nazis, too. Is that really the best option?
DeSantis is the only one of them who signed a bill like this. Both of them are better than DeSantis because they’ve never signed a bill this evil.
Self-centered logic powered by ignorance.
See? This is Lemmy at its finest, where a lack of (displayed) karma encourages people to just be their honest selves!
Honesty is the best policy so everyone can know who the fascists are.
Pure logic lol
Ok fascist.
he’s really the best you could come up with? Someone who attracts neo nazis?
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/26/desantis-campaign-video-nazi-symbol-fired-aide
the fascism is just a bonus for you then?
Pure logic hahaha 😂
Wait, you’re serious?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I identify as sick of reading the same tired tropes on endless loop.
Except, you didn’t have to read it. You chose to.
But he’s a man so he’s a victim!!! A liberal trans woman made him read that!
Yeah, cut him some slack! Poor guy is an outrage slut. He couldn’t help himself. He probably sprung a raging cocktail wiener as soon as he got through the title.
And then his dick fell off. True story.
Ha, what dick?
I mean, to be fair, I don’t have a dick either. 😊
also you only have one joke
We would, if you people were capable of evolving past this shit
Color me shocked that someone so deep in the alt-right bullshit hole can even read.
Lol you first. Conservatism is super regressive.
Oh. Another long winded, pretentious diatribe on how my mom can’t accept rehab and crack whoring caused it all. Jesus fuck get new material.
TMI bro, take it outside
I laughed but yes, this is a good example on how the left CAN’T respond in any sensible manner and have to resort to contorting words and outright changing what’s said to even engage in the conversation. You know I’m right but you don’t want to admit it so you change what I said to use humor to rally those around you into blindly wielding pitchforks against logical thoughts. You people are pretty fucking sad.
No, you’re actually wrong. That’s the entire problem, and the reason people don’t engage with you. It’s like if someone on the left said “drum magazines bad because when you use an assault clip with a sawed-off military style shotgun it gives you so much more firepower that you can kill a whole room in one second”. Where do you even start with somebody when basically every single thing they say is just plain wrong? Then think about if this person was belligerent, deliberately confrontational, and kept using terms like “logic” to refer to histrionics and emotional arguments. You wouldn’t give them the time of day, because you know their head is way too far up their ass to ever consider manning up and accepting they have deeply held beliefs that were wrong all along. See where I’m going with this?
