I eat meat, but man do I see some dumb shit posted on that com. Apparently I called someone too hard on their bullshit. Hardcore carnists sure are fucking delicate. Maybe they should get a little more fiber in their diet.

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    13 days ago

    Zero carb is fat based! Not meat based. For the average person they don’t add any extra protein in, they just swap out carbohydrates for fat.

    A zero carb carnivore eats the same amount of meat as 98% of the world.

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      12 days ago

      A zero carb carnivore eats the same amount of meat as 98% of the world.

      These kinds of claims are the reason why I can’t take carnivores seriously.

      You eat about 400g of beef a day. (some carnivores eat twice that or more. I’m making a conservative estimate) Not to mention some of the “fat” you eat is tallow. which is basically rendered from meat like beef or pork.

      That’s about 150kg of meat per year.

      Most humans are in China and India. Chinese eat about 60kg of meat per year and India is 6 kg.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption

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        12 days ago

        The Standard Western diet is about 15% of energy from animal protein, going carnivore does not increase that.

        These kinds of claims are the reason why I can’t take carnivores seriously. - You eat about 400g of beef a day.

        Which is roughly 100g of protein (400 calories), and 65g of fat (600 calories), inline with the standard western diet daily protein recommendations.

        My base metabolic rate is about 3500 calories a day (yes, i’ve measured it). So 11% of my daily energy intake is coming from protein, and 89% is coming from fat. Carnivore is about eating more fat.

        Not to mention some of the “fat” you eat is tallow. which is basically rendered from meat like beef or pork.

        That doesn’t change anything, unless you classify fat as meat? I don’t. Fat is fat. Meat is protein.

        As an example butter isn’t a type of meat.

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          12 days ago

          Your original claim is about the world.

          Now you are talking about western diet which is only a small part of the world.

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            12 days ago

            A zero carb carnivore eats the same amount of meat as 98% of the world.

            Your original claim is about the world.

            Sure, that is a fair point. As you have just pointed out there are populations that are not meeting their minimal protein targets for health.

            As far as carnivore goes - it doesn’t change the daily protein target.