Scotland is a goner, last time I was there all the card terminals had it. Asked a waitress if she would get the tip if I have one and she flushed, mumbled something, looked at the boss and sheepishly said it gets shared. I bet none of the staff sees any of it.
I mean I’m not sure what you can do other than name and shame the restaurant, and/or boycott it
I’m against tipping culture so um not endorsing this but… you could give her a 5 dollars/ euros/ sheckles note and thank her for what she did to deserve that?
Tipping is pretty normal here in Germany but not required, no one depends on it. Probably because our minimum wage is actually high enough. Germany’s minimum wage of 12.50€/h is almost double that of the US, which is $7.25/h or 6.76€/h if you convert it.
Edit: I just found out in this thread that businesses don’t even have to pay minimum wage in the US, they just have to pay what’s left for the tips to cover the minimum wage. That’s so fucking stupid, holy shit.
Isn’t it? Almost like tipping at all is dumb. But don’t believe all the hype you’re reading. Many states supersede that requirement with higher wages. You can see the full listing of state by state requirements here. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped
The most populous states (so think majority of people you’d ever talk to online on the matter) require jobs to match their minimum wage and not just the federal one. So AZ as an example (and only choosing this example since I live here), the “tipped” wage is 11.35 and the minimum wage that must be reached is 14.35 after tips. I do not feel a need to tip much more than a couple bucks if I tip. 14.35 to bring me a lukewarm plate of ever decreasing meal portions… I’d rather just get up and get the food off the line myself than pay someone 10$ to do it for me.
In Austria often times they expect it because of “good behaviour”. Its not a fix percentage but more pocket chance.
Still they are getting a full salary at the end of the month
That was a big change for me coming there from the Netherlands. Tipping is a bigger thing here, but salaries are also better and waiters seem to get some level of respect as well.
I lived in three Netherlands for a few years 10 or so years ago. Service in amsterdam was so bad that sometimes not even American colleagues would tip, and it definitely wasnt a bigger thing. Dutch colleagues were let’s say a bit protective of their hard earbed euros. what has changed?
Remember at the end of a restaurant dinner, we were 20 or so minutes from closing time, big table, one of the waiters dragged a huge rubbish bag from the kitchen along our table which is already pretty bad for my standards, and while doing so he feathered every jacket that was behind the chairs of the people on that side of the table. there was a moment of silence, lots of colleagues visiting from abroad and not used to the lively customer service. Add to that impossible to make a reservation in most places, just show up and queue.
It’s worse than you think – In most US States, you can pay people way under the minimum wage as long as their tips make up for it. So an average waiter might make 2 bucks and hour on paper. If they didn’t get enough tips to reach minimum wage, the restaurant would have to pay them out on top of that, but it’s just this fucked up cultural thing to give restaurant owners free labor that the customers pay for.
Keep this garbage out of europe please. i see it popping up. I will absolutely refuse to tip a single goddamn soul at this point going forward.
Scotland is a goner, last time I was there all the card terminals had it. Asked a waitress if she would get the tip if I have one and she flushed, mumbled something, looked at the boss and sheepishly said it gets shared. I bet none of the staff sees any of it.
Which is illegal! If you tip a waiter/waitress then the money must go to them: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/all-tips-to-go-to-staff-under-government-plans-to-enhance-rights-of-2-million-workers
I mean I’m not sure what you can do other than name and shame the restaurant, and/or boycott it
I’m against tipping culture so um not endorsing this but… you could give her a 5 dollars/ euros/ sheckles note and thank her for what she did to deserve that?
You picked THREE currencies and not one of them is used in Scotland.
Pints of Guinness? /s
Edit one of those three might not be that far away
Guinness is Irish.
Scottish people are the ones who wear a beret, carry a baguette everywhere on their bicycle and say “mais oui oui”
Tipping is pretty normal here in Germany but not required, no one depends on it. Probably because our minimum wage is actually high enough. Germany’s minimum wage of 12.50€/h is almost double that of the US, which is $7.25/h or 6.76€/h if you convert it.
Edit: I just found out in this thread that businesses don’t even have to pay minimum wage in the US, they just have to pay what’s left for the tips to cover the minimum wage. That’s so fucking stupid, holy shit.
Isn’t it? Almost like tipping at all is dumb. But don’t believe all the hype you’re reading. Many states supersede that requirement with higher wages. You can see the full listing of state by state requirements here.
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped
The most populous states (so think majority of people you’d ever talk to online on the matter) require jobs to match their minimum wage and not just the federal one. So AZ as an example (and only choosing this example since I live here), the “tipped” wage is 11.35 and the minimum wage that must be reached is 14.35 after tips. I do not feel a need to tip much more than a couple bucks if I tip. 14.35 to bring me a lukewarm plate of ever decreasing meal portions… I’d rather just get up and get the food off the line myself than pay someone 10$ to do it for me.
Only way you can ensure a living wage us to not take part in it
In Austria often times they expect it because of “good behaviour”. Its not a fix percentage but more pocket chance. Still they are getting a full salary at the end of the month
That was a big change for me coming there from the Netherlands. Tipping is a bigger thing here, but salaries are also better and waiters seem to get some level of respect as well.
I lived in three Netherlands for a few years 10 or so years ago. Service in amsterdam was so bad that sometimes not even American colleagues would tip, and it definitely wasnt a bigger thing. Dutch colleagues were let’s say a bit protective of their hard earbed euros. what has changed?
Remember at the end of a restaurant dinner, we were 20 or so minutes from closing time, big table, one of the waiters dragged a huge rubbish bag from the kitchen along our table which is already pretty bad for my standards, and while doing so he feathered every jacket that was behind the chairs of the people on that side of the table. there was a moment of silence, lots of colleagues visiting from abroad and not used to the lively customer service. Add to that impossible to make a reservation in most places, just show up and queue.
theres your problem
Well yeah last i checked it was still in the Netherlands ;)
It’s worse than you think – In most US States, you can pay people way under the minimum wage as long as their tips make up for it. So an average waiter might make 2 bucks and hour on paper. If they didn’t get enough tips to reach minimum wage, the restaurant would have to pay them out on top of that, but it’s just this fucked up cultural thing to give restaurant owners free labor that the customers pay for.