Edit: Blocked the author’s name, because it’s not my tumblr. I didn’t expect so many people to misinterpret it and respond in this way.

Edit 2: This is not from the same author, but it’s a reply to them. I think it might help clarify the post for those that are confused:

I normally don’t worry about usernames on tumblr, but since there’ve been some really out-of-pocket misconceptions in the thread, I don’t want anyone to harass them.

  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
    6·
    9 months ago

    It’s not a strawman, the post says the situation is simple, and then says to make other countries safe for Jews, implying they should just go to other countries.

    It’s either that they’re proposing a solution that that’s simple, or maybe the situation isn’t simple and easy to solve like their 14 year old self claims it is.

    • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
      5·
      9 months ago

      Why is it so much to ask to make every country feel safe for jewish people? Have the fascists won, or what?

      Because if your answer to “the jewish question” is a settler colonial ethnostate, you’re literally repeating fascist opinions.

      Edit: Also, they never said anything about “every Israeli” leaving Palestine. That’s the strawman bit. Your Motte-and-bailey argument didn’t go unnoticed.

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
        4·
        9 months ago

        Why is it so much to ask to make every country feel safe for jewish people? Have the fascists won, or what?

        No one has argued otherwise.

        Because if your answer to “the jewish question” is a settler colonial ethnostate, you’re literally repeating fascist opinions.

        No one has claimed that.

        Because if your answer to “the jewish question” is a settler colonial ethnostate, you’re literally repeating fascist opinions.

        That is the clear solution they’re implying, either that, or there isn’t a simple solution, and they’re a fucking moron for claiming that it’s a simple situation.

        • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
          4·
          9 months ago

          No one has argued otherwise.

          You have. That was the thesis, OP stated. You called that thefis naive.

          That is the clear solution they’re implying

          No, they’re implying the opposite: “Don’t commit genocide and set up an ethostate”. The “don’t” applies to both.

          • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
            3·
            9 months ago

            You have. That was the thesis, OP stated. You called that thefis naive.

            Lmao, no. OP’s thesis was that ‘the situation is simple, we just need to make everywhere safe for Jewish people’. That is naiive to the point of being an irrelevant non-sequitor.

            No, they’re implying the opposite: “Don’t commit genocide and set up an ethostate”. The “don’t” applies to both.

            No, they’re not, because they’re not talking about how simple it was in 1945-1947 to make the decision not do something, they’re describing the current situation as simple.

            Saying “well don’t get yourself into this situation”, is not useful, helpful, or remotely meaningful. Everyone is already aware of that. That goes hand in hand with it being a shitty situation.