Discord blocks 3rd-party apps. Discord is not libre software.
Time is a flat circle. We’re going back to IRC, boys.
I knew you’d all be back!
/me slaps 1993_toyota_camry around a bit with a large trout
Dang, that just brought back some memories I forgot I had…
I loved writing scripts for mIRC!
Never left. Just slowed down :).
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So annoying when you run into an interesting project and you realise that the only documentation is a link to Discord.
Just makes a good setup for total data loss where there’s no documentation nor community to turn toward. As if whatever was made never existed. I’m concerned with all the forums that shuttered in the past years that moved 100% to discord and will soon probably have to reverse this trend.
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Element is a great client for matrix. It functions similarly to Discord.
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I wanted to love Matrix but I spent hours setting up an instance only for it to do nothing.
Yeah. There’s some stuff to setup to get it running but it’s not impossible.
Yeah that’s true. I’ll have to give it another go soon. I’m simply so busy with other projects on the computer (Docker, Kubernetes, development on multiple apps) that I haven’t had the patience for it.
@lynny I wish it supported Custom emojiz
This is the main reason we use mattermost instead :/
Agreed
Tbh I don’t mind proprietary apps, so long as the user experience is good.
I don’t mind the ui nudges to buy nitro - the server costs have to come from somewhere - but if discord starts seriously serving ads, I’m gone.
jokes on you i got overwhelmed by every channel being split into a gajillion chats anyway
I would love to, but finding an alternative might be even harder than finding an alternative to reddit. I am registered to many alternatives, but unless the people I want to talk to such as my friends are there then it serves no purpose for me.
Don’t find them, make them! Make friends, make communities, make alternatives an option.
I don’t want new friends. That’s not what I’m looking for in a chat client.
Nah. Discord is the most accessible, if we’re talking about blind folks and accessibility. I tried using Element, and yikes!!! No. Cant read a single convo. In Discord, I can go back as far as necessary till I catch up. Tried other apps, too, and they all do the same thing.
How is the vision-impared accessibility with Lemmy? Obviously good enough that you’re using it but I’m curious how the experience is.
Not sure if my comment went through, but the site is ok for replying to comments. The app, Mlem, is good for browsing communities except when it randomly crashes.
Thanks for replying, both comments came through! I’m not shocked that mlem is having some issues, since it’s in like the Apple version of early access. Thankfully, it seems like the community here so far are the kind of people who care more about accessibility than Reddit ever did.
Oh absolutely! I have contacted Reddit a few times and all they would say is that they think Reddit should be used by everyone, and they’re working on accessibility. Yet, when I update the app, it somehow gets worse! Clearly, they don’t care, or they’d have made the exzemption to third-party apps that focus on accessibility sooner, rather than when blind folks were banging on their door, wanting better.
The Mlem app keeps crashing all of a sudden, so I hate that. And making a community is kinda strange. I get to the “create” button and when I press it, it says, “match the…” but I don’t know what the rest is cuz the screen reader stops.
Discord doesn’t really block 3rd party apps. Technically, they are against ToS, but unless you’re doing something bad, it’s seen as okay by the discord staff.
But yes, it’s quite the closed ecosystem obviously. There are no 3rd party clients that implement all features, mostly due to the fact that it’s all closed source.
I only ever joined Discord for friends. Leaving would mean losing all friends, not even a select bunch. They’re not moving and while some may care that it’s upsetting, it’s a collective bunch that needs convincing. Friends of friends of friends. People aren’t jumping ship for one person to also not have their other friends not jump ship.
Reddit is a community but doesn’t have the more casual chat that friends use (well they have it now, but it was never good).
Discord pretty much has to burn bridges like Reddit did before anyone moves.
We start by mentioning software freedom in everyday converations, in plain english, over the long term. We should not expect anything without creating its foundations.
I’ve been excitedly following the matrix project for years, but I’m in a lot of unique discord servers that would never move short of catastrophe. The network effect is too strong to shake the apathetic. We’ll win the long game with matrix, but it might take a while.
Easier said than done when your communities are all on Discord. I would love foss, but I’m not ditching my friends for it
i dont have any reason to ditch discord, but I will be homing on FOSS and using the bots I can run for next to nothing to replicate my content out to the other spaces. The places I really care about Ill still stalk but going to make the home here.
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What like … Oh idk dropping the discriminator and forcing a new system that will encourage account selling/scamming?
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I’d love to leave discord, but I know to many people that use it and will not budge on leaving. I am stuck with it.
So unless discord makes a very serious boneheaded mistake and double down on it like Reddit did… I don’t see many people leaving.
They were going too, but listened to the community instead. (Re selling discord)
Do we also have alternatives to Discord?
I believe Matrix is the closest alternative.
I don’t use Discord, but Revolt looks similar
https://revolt.chat/Others:
https://matrix.org/
https://mattermost.com/
https://github.com/spacebarchat/spacebarchatTo add to these, albeit not entirely the same, there’s Zulip. I’ve not used it personally, but I love the thinking behind the design, where you have the classic channel style but then also threading so that you can better organize & follow conversations.
While I love the sentiment, I have to say leaving Discord was one of the worst choices I ever made, not because Discord is inherently better, but because of the friends on it. I was in a very different state mentally and left without warning, and I regret it everyday, even though I’m back on Discord and some of my friends were willing to accept me, I still get a very intense feeling that what I did was unforgivable and I shouldn’t be given this chance to talk with them again. It feels like leaving someone waiting for a high five and returning it months later when the hype is gone… I’m mostly inactive because I feel so wrong and I really don’t deserve friends that are so nice. While I made the choice to leave and I knew the consequences, I don’t wish anyone else to make that same mistake, leave with confidence, not with a cloudy mindset, worsening depression, and way less friends.
I don’t think anyone blames you for leaving. Social networks are notoriously bad for mental health. And I think everyone takes a break from time to time. You don’t deserve to feel so bad. 💜
Thank you :) From one internet surfer to another, your comment was acknowledged and very appreciated. I wish social media wasn’t as prevalent as it currently is, but still nonetheless I appreciate the kind words and the time you took to write! <3
The part about it being unforgivable sounds extreme. How can there be “consequences” for simply temporarily opting out of a chat app?
Losing touch with friends for a while definitely sucks but if you need a break from literally an app then real friends will accept that.
I left way more than once, so leaving several times and expecting people to accept you again and again sounds like a chore and not everyone is going to keep accepting you.
I don’t know, I have a discord friend who leaves every once in awhile, and it’s just their thing, and we welcome her back with open arms every time. No big deal, leave when you need to and come back when you’re ready :)
I don’t think other people see it that way. It’s very common for people on discord to disappear for days/months then pop back in.
Yeah I suppose thats true, I was very much in a different mental state when I left, so much so I deleted my account, one person I was good friends with checked in with my phone number and made sure I was okay. I only wanted to share my experience because some others viewing might be in a similar state I was in, terrified of technology and *almost left it all behind. I have very good people though and I couldnt be more thankful. :)
Don’t be so hard on yourself man, your friends accepted you back because you provide something that they don’t want to give up! Social Media is not healthy for us humans. You were able to take a step back and realize that maybe you made a mistake in how you executed moving away from a platform with your friends on it, mistakes happen and it sounds like your friends understand that and you also now understand how much they mean to you, it’s growth
Thank you for the kind words! Stay safe, friend.
