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        Solar, wind, geothermal and biofuels

        Aka renewables

        So while the progress of the last few decades in renewables is great progress, I’m certain you can see why we need to divest from oil and invest in nuclear tech to take up the base load

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          I’m surprised that solar isn’t yet big enough to be broken out on its own.

          I’m also surprised that natural gas is outgrowing everything else.

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            Natural gas is just Methabe and is being pushed by big oil, since it needs all of the infrastructure they already have.

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            I’m surprised that solar isn’t yet big enough to be broken out on its own.

            and that’s the problem. It’s not even enough of our power generation to be its own separate entity on the graph, but these people expect it to just magically power the planet in the next 5 years.

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            We only recently developed the technology to make it more feasible. They used to just light it off and burn it at the wells when they would tap it.

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              It’s just not feasible to scale to the point that we would need to scale it to sufficiently power our societies

              Anything to back that up?

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                    Fuck it! Here’s a hypothetical a magic genie. Just granted My wish and gave us enough solar to actually power everything we need. Now one six of every country on Earth is covered in solar panels. Here’s the catch though you need to Learn more about how electrical grids work then come back to me once you realized we would have to rebuild an even bigger worldwide connected grid to make solar and a battery powered society actually functional and that we currently have no way to make battery storage equitable and affordable enough to store the amount of energy we would need to store everyday to power our societies through the night.

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                  We could use solar (or other renewables/nuclear) to power hydrogen fuel cells, then take the energy where it’s needed.

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                    Hydrogen transport is also a mass of pain in the ass because hydrogen being the noblest of gases and only a single hydrogen molecule likes to seep out of every container we’ve ever made and there’s no way to permanently contain it.