• SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    6 months ago

    How does hunting not involve killing?

    How does such military defense not involve the act or threat of killing?

    • SupraMario@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      10
      ·
      6 months ago

      This is like saying veterinarians are killers with their tools because they euthanize animals…

      Just having arms is a deterant, yes firearms are designed to destroy, they’re also designed as a defensive tool.

      You clearly ignored sports shooting which is an actual sport, even an event in the Olympics.

      • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        6 months ago

        The fuck? Vets do much, much more than just euthanize animals. What do guns do other than shoot projectiles intended to kill?

        How do guns defend without using the threat of violence? How do they act as a physical shield?

        Yes, it’s possible to practice using tools designed specifically for killing. Cars are tools designed specifically for transport, and people have contests for driving those, too.

        Why is it so hard for you to accept that guns are tools designed specifically for killing? That’s literally just what they are.

        • SupraMario@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          6 months ago

          The fuck? Vets do much, much more than just euthanize animals. What do guns do other than shoot projectiles intended to kill?

          Just using your silly logic…you know vets have captive bolt guns and suppressed firearms as well, does that make their tools pointless because they only kill?

          How do guns defend without using the threat of violence? How do they act as a physical shield?

          Same way a sword or knife can be used to kill and also defend, its a force multiplier.

          Yes, it’s possible to practice using tools designed specifically for killing. Cars are tools designed specifically for transport, and people have contests for driving those, too.

          Glad you’re grasping it

          Why is it so hard for you to accept that guns are tools designed specifically for killing? That’s literally just what they are.

          Because I’m not the one that suggests magically thinking banning them all will make the world a safer place. Do you think the 100lb woman can defend against a 250lb man? Or what about minorities who are threated by a few racist fucks? Or an LGBTQ+ person who has a bunch of bigots trying to kill them? Should these people just not get a gun because it’s designed to kill? What tool do you suggest they use?

          • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            6 months ago

            Where did I suggest magical bans? You’re projecting a ton of your own insecurities onto me.

            None of your rant contradicts the fact that guns are tools designed specifically for killing.

            • SupraMario@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              6 months ago

              This entire thread chain is in place to suggest that only guns which are designed to kill, should have their manufacturs liable for what other people do with the product. No other industry was brought up, just guns. Why? Because at the end of the day, you’re all for complete bans, and no amount of “nuh uh, we’re fine with hunting rifles” or whatever else bullshit, that’s the end goal…you just try and sugar coat it so you can try and gain some support for the idea.

              • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                4
                ·
                6 months ago

                It was a single example as a thought exercise.

                All the rest are words you’re putting on other people’s mouths.

                  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    4
                    ·
                    6 months ago

                    There you go again, putting words in even more people’s mouths.

                    Anyway, what would that have to do with the fact that guns are tools.designed specifically for killing?

              • delirious_owl
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                6 months ago

                Uh, I started this thread, and I brought up other products: electric chairs and the guillotine.

                And, no, hunting rifles are the worst kind of guns. They are definitely designed for killing. But my point was that not all guns are designed for killing.

                • SupraMario@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  3
                  ·
                  6 months ago

                  Thread chain == thread. I was talking about noodle…and wtf why are hunting rifles the worst type?