• Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    33
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    6 months ago

    The theatre apologizes, acknowledged fault but didn’t offer to refund the $125 ticket. Apologies are worthless.

    • borebore@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      6 months ago

      It’s not like they expected this when they organized the event. Dryfus should be the one offering a refund, but you know he believes it is his god given right to spout hatred at unsuspecting movies fans.

      • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        18
        ·
        6 months ago

        Dryfus has been very vocal about his views for some time. As the theater acknowledged, they needed to do a better job vetting guests. Also I’m going to guess that they didn’t have any language in their agreement that would have made Dryfus responsible for damages incurred by his actions. Also, there is insurance for this sort of stuff which they should maintain as a cost of doing business.

        • borebore@lemmy.worldOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          6 months ago

          I hope that all the prep and insurance doesn’t make the whole venture unprofitable, or we will never have nice things. It sounds like they are trying to do the right thing, but you are correct, the contract needed to make him responsible and they needed to do the bare minimum effort to check if they were hiring a monster.

          • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            7
            ·
            6 months ago

            Our business has to do this. In our case it’s called Errors and Omisions insurance but I have no doubt that similar insurance exists for entertainment venues. It is also not crazy expensive.

            It’s a lessoned learned. Unfortunately it is one learned exclusively at the expense of the patrons.

        • Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          6 months ago

          How is it any more their responsibility than the ticket buyers’?

          Yes, the theater needs to vet their guests, but how can you say a small team of organizers is on the hook while a whole crowd of people shouldn’t have known better based on what Dreyfuss’ public persona is and has been?

          • MajorHavoc@programming.dev
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            6 months ago

            Uh… It just is.

            If folks want to sell venue tickets to ticket buyers over and over again, they need to provide an occasional refund when the speaker goes way off course from the expected.

            That sounds like what happened here.

            It’s not particularly fair to the venue, but it’s the cultural expectation, here.

            It’s also practical economics.

            The venue can better afford 20 refunds than it can afford 20 customers out in the community saying “I don’t go there, anymore.”

            Also, issuing the refund is a good faith evidence that, should the vendor ever invite that speaker again, they’ve done their due diligence with that speaker, on expectations.

    • crossmr@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      6 months ago

      It looks like only about 20 people walked out, and it isn’t clear at all from any sources what it is he supposedly said and how it came to transpire, other than the fact that one of the things he said was in direct response to a question asked of him, and someone in the facebook thread seems to indicate the person they had moderating had a hand in the nonsense. Someone also said that the submissive comment was him talking about how women were treated at the time.

      • HubertManne@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        6 months ago

        yeah im getting pretty annoyed at vague accusation headlines with no damning details. If you have no details then don’t write a “news” article.