Please don’t mislead me by depositing hope in me, my ability to follow basic instructions and/or my mental faculties, even if joking. Now you’re just being cruel.

I’ll try but no promises.

Good for you. Have a a nice day.

relevant

Not proof, just interesting to think about.

I don’t.

Agreed.

There is nothing to be said with any certainty about the subjective experience of any of consciousness other than our own. You (and philosophers and scientists) can keep guessing as much as you want, though, and keep pretending to be sure.

I’m not pretending we don’t have a choice and not equating less harm = more harm. I’m just saying a lot of it is inevitable. Anything we gain, someone else didn’t, so we have to make decisions based on how much we want stuff vs how much getting it harms others.

Anyway, sorry if i offended you. Take care.

It makes me feel justified to perpetrate the Inevitable suffering that is a side product of my existence, yes. Everything (that has a consciousness like our own if you want) causes something else to suffer by merely existing. The money you have in your wallet right now is money that other people don’t have. Biology works the same way.

There’s a difference between not resenting and desiring. This is gonna sound crazy but I have actually taken a walk in the Savannah and was arguably close to being eaten by cheetahs.

More relevantly to your point though, I don’t really resent, for example, the people that inflicted trauma upon me in my youth. I don’t know what their life experience was and for all I know I could have done the same in their shoes. I don’t want to see these people and want nothing to do with them but resent them? Not really. Was them harming me but in a different world who knows, you know?

I think the same applies to any kind of infliction of suffering. Like, you don’t have to want or enjoy the suffering or even like the perpetrators one bit to be able to understand / forgive them for what they did.

I don’t expect you to agree. Just wanted to share my perspective. If you’d like to share yours I’d be more than happy to read you.

Idk I woudn’t resent something if it ate me, especially if I was delicious and they were grateful for my sacrifice.

idk if universal but afaik it’s very common.

Coming from you, extremely.

Have you considered how delicious cows are though?

Yes, America is a horrible oppressive regime that dictates what the world does through war, lies and poison. Yes, America is an evil empire that controls everything. Also, not that this justifies anything, but if it wasn’t them it would be someone else.

Empires commit atrocities to remain dominant. There will always be a biggest bully and the biggest bully will always be mean. There is no “If only the americans were gone the world would be a utopia”. Some other asshole with nukes would step up and do the same. Americans aren’t particularly horrendous compared to other empires in history (e.g. mongol, dutch, persian)

If you don’t want your country to commit or allow atrocities, go live in another planet.

maybe you’re not considering collective benefit / kin selection.

I don’t even know who the second one is.

not really

discusses the issue

too brown for that.