• @jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
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    15 months ago

    There’s a big difference between asphyxiating with nitrogen by accident and knowingly knowing you’re being asphyxiated. Accidental asphyxiation is only peaceful because people don’t know it’s happening.

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      155 months ago

      The point is, that you don’t notice it. Your body lacks fast oxygen sensors, as long as you can breathe off CO2, you won’t feel anything, maybe a bit tingly.

      That’s not to say it’s “nice”, an execution is inevitably extremely stressful, but that’s kind of inevitable if you want the whole “witness” charade.

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        5 months ago

        A pulmonologist in another thread said that was based on bad science. That the body can’t hit hypoxia fast enough to not trigger the suffocation response, because they are holding their breathe up to that point. That’s kind of a big deal if true.

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          25 months ago

          Even if that’s true, how long can you hold your breath? Under stress. 2min? Then you’ll breathe again, get rid of CO2 and you’re done.

          Again, I’m not advocating for death penalty, but if you’re determined to kill someone, nitrogen is definitely one of the best ways.

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            5 months ago

            What they were saying is, is that’s not enough time for the nitrogen to displace the co2 in their lungs for the peaceful part to happen. It’s not hypoxia that they die from its the suffocation.

            • AggressivelyPassive
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              35 months ago

              CO2 isn’t “replaced”, it’s getting breathed away like in a normal atmosphere. The atmosphere is 70% nitrogen, it’s not like it’s a toxic gas.

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                5 months ago

                The fact that you don’t understand displacement of lung (and bloodstream) gas content tells me you don’t have enough of a medical background to understand wtf you are talking about.

                • AggressivelyPassive
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                  25 months ago

                  The fact that you’re repeating the same words again and again tells me, you just read something you don’t quite understand and act like an expert now.

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                    5 months ago

                    I’m not the one with the burden of proof to prove that it is painless.

                    Read about the fact that the scientific community can not study the death penalty from within most death penalty states to actually provide anything more than individual testimonials. The scientific community does not support the conclusion that hypoxia is in any way painless. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/