I could talk for weeks about the sheer nepotistic corrupt bullshit in the early years, when an Ayn Rand roleplaying group (not kidding, they were called “Taggart Transdimensional”) got unique advantages from the devs that no one else could access all in the name of “roleplaying.” They conjured up fictional characters that gave those advantages (the very first and exclusive t2 mining laser blueprint originals) to their Randroid favorites, and over and over again changed the rules to fit their favorites, year after year.

The dystopian corruption of the setting was coming from inside the development company.

  • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
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    Fredrik Knudsen’s video on EVE is really fascinating stuff, though more focused on in-universe events. I don’t recall him even bringing this up in the vid which seems like a huge miss, I just recall various claims of admins giving benefits to certain users unchecked for a while. Also tracks with the monetization changes the devs made that universally pissed off their whole playerbase, unironic lolbertarians are wild ancap-good

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      Oh that video is amazing and it recapped so much that I didn’t see for myself after I quit the game in disgust around “Tyrannus,” which was appropriately named because it was a staggering number of “protect the country club” rules changes to make sure the company’s favorite in-game failsons were protected from invasion in a way where they could just press a button and prevent invasions entirely as long as they were rich enough. ancaptain

      • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]
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        … a game that has people and their families sent death threats and years of toxic shit due to the profit motive of the game’s cash out system

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          I’m glad I left. It started as a Randroid wet dream, even in its fiction, and that was always the point.

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      Sure, the skullduggery and corruption is neat when it’s in-game and you’re ready for it, but when godlike entities outside of the game’s limitations can just conjure shit up and change the rules to fit their Randroid buddies, that’s not fun.

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    What a shitty game

    I spent ages botting with like 10 accounts, from bot mining in a rented nullsec system to bot faction warfare amassing a stupid amount of isk for one player, then having decided I had enough funds to have fun, joined some corps and realised I didn’t enjoy the game at all

    Should log on and sell off the characters and ISK some day

  • This would have never happened if CCP Guard was still there. Rip permaband. In all seriousness, CCP seems like an awful place to work but there are still good people that work there. Although they either leave like Guard or Snorlax or get worse like Hilmar. Aurora still seems okay, but for how long remains to be seen.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]OP
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      “GREED IS GOOD” as a magazine header when peddling those “incarna” macrotransactions.

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    Posting pirate software should be illegal. I never really understood the appeal of eve i imagine its very much a sunk cost fallacy game i don’t really see how new players can get into it. I tried it out a few times and put a decent amount of time into the game it mostly devolved into either doing missions or mining and both were very boring. Gameplay is clunky, grind is intense, only recommendation is to join a corp where i would do the exact same activities but get taxed.

    I did play with a few friends and do some lowsec mining but nothing interesting ever happened its only ever nullsec ganks anyway

    • UlyssesT [he/him]OP
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      Enough, at least.

      The experience point treadmill in that game can be very discouraging to new players, last I checked anyway.

      • miz [any, any]
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        it’s all pay-to-win now with skill injectors anyway. you can just add ISK until you have the exact skills you want

        • UlyssesT [he/him]OP
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          That wasn’t even a thing when I quit.

          Sounds pretty awful, and yet another way for the country club failsons of New Eden to pump up alts and uplift minions into servitude.

        • Beetle_O_Rourke [she/her, comrade/them]
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          P2W only applies if you have the game knowledge to know where and how to spend it.

          You could have a purple paladin, and then immediately die to 8 frigates once you jump it into Tama.

          A more pertinent example is the Casino Guy who bankrolled the most recent successfull eviction of Goonwaffe injecting a max skilled Erebus, putting the toon in PL, and then immediately eating shit on his first lowsec jump towards staging.

          I do think you have somewhat of a point there with the amount of shitfit marauders you see on zkill with 6 month old characters, but it is absolutely nothing like WoT gold ammo, or a gacha mobage.

          E:spelling, readability

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    My surface level understanding of the game made it seem like the kind of thing that I would have loved at some point in my life, but the more I learn about it, the more I’m glad I never gave it a shot.

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      It certainly delivers the corruption and backstabbing hellscape that it promises (including its development company’s meddling in the game), but it’s also a bit exhausting because of it. More fun for me to read about than participate in.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]OP
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      You mad bro? Most of us quit that game 14 years ago.

      That was pointlessly hostile.

      I haven’t played that game in over a decade. In fact I quit around the “Tyrannus” expansion.

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            I remember now, “Teapot” is still enraged, weeks later, over what I said about developers getting abused by working conditions around recent Mortal Kombat games. The hypocrisy about “touching grass” is amazing here, as is the “u mad” Redditism.

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                  The same Epic freeze-gamer is now defending the fucking devs of EVE Online who have been corrupt and manipulative in their own game for decades with thorough and expansive documentation.

                  Does @Teapot@hexbear.net even have leftist takes, at all, or is he here to be a toxic fanboy for every rich corpo within bootlicking reach?

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                It seemed, weeks ago, that you were previously trying to come across as a boilerplate “nothing offends you and other people’s feelings don’t matter” type, performatively and loudly not caring about anything… until of course someone happens to criticize the emotionally traumatizing working conditions that went into making a video game. That’s real shit for you, isn’t it?

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            “Teapot” is still enraged over what I said, weeks ago, about developers getting abused by working conditions around recent Mortal Kombat games. The hypocrisy about “touching grass” smugposting is amazing here, as is the “u mad” Redditism.

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              It’s really wild that you have “fans” that follow you around through alts.

              You haven’t even been back that long, and they’re already back at it

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                It wasn’t even a deep dive; it was on the first page of his post history, reminding me that he’s still enraged about me talking about bad game company practices.

                Look what’s happening here: more rage about me talking about bad game company practices.

                Is that Epic freeze-gamer even a leftist at all?

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          Are you mad, though?

          What is even the point of rehashing this besides some strange Reddity hostility?

          This seems like a situation that would be helped by touching grass

          You first, especially considering your Reddity tantrum just now.

          Oh, I remember now. You’re still enraged at me talking about the recent Mortal Kombat games being made under coercively abusive conditions that made some people making them seek therapy for what they went through.

          For real, you really need to take your own advice, especially since your tantrum is over another video game, and that tantrum started weeks ago.

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        The “you mad bro” was a reference to that era and the piracy, ganking, goon swarm wars that were part of the game.

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          That’s dubious, but okay. It set off a “totally not fan and totally doesn’t care” stan that stanned very hard for CCP in this thread all the same.

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            I’m not going to play “no real Scotsman”. I loved that game, my best IRL friends are all from that game but we all moved on like most do.

            I would just guess you had a different experience and that’s why my comment felt hostile. We memed hard and frequented the forums and failheapchallenge.

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              I only read about it from afar now. That’s entertaining anyway, especially the Knudsen 5 hour video treatment.

  • NuraShiny [any]
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    014 days ago

    Why can I not escape this lib? Why must Pirate Software be posted everywhere?!