• vga@sopuli.xyz
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    Russia started the Ukraine war in 2014 by attacking Crimea. Then they escalated the war in 2022 by attacking all of Ukraine.

    No other escalations have happened. Claiming that it has is typical russotroll bullshit.

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    Blowing up the Brits is a nice olive branch, but I think we’ll need more commitment if we want a lasting peace deal

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    Hitting London with a ballistic missile would bring the rents down. Maybe this is a good thing.

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      Well it would likely put them up, seeing as it would remove supply but, if you know Londoners you’ll know it won’t do a damn thing about demand.

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        At least they have good public transportation. But yeah, anyone making less than £100,000 a year, good luck finding anywhere with a train commute of under an hour.

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          We moved into a home county. I grew up in London, but it’s just too expensive. We could have gotten a place there, but it would not be a good one, not be in a good area and likely be beyond our personal budget (the banks would give us the money, we wouldn’t accept it).

          Not regretting it at all really.

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        These things aren’t accurate enough to hit much so as long as he puts conventional warheads on it like he did for Dnipro, it won’t do much.

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    Please do it Putin. WE want the excuse, NATO wants the excuse, Poland’s chomping champing at the bit for the excuse and we really want to see how long it takes them to rush Moscow.

    Edit: damn it Lemmy, I’m an engineer not a dictionary.

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    Reminder that World War 2 had a gradual unfolding of declarations of war across several months or longer, depending on how you want to fuck that pig. I think we’re already in the onset of WWIII, in some sense.

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      This is what I have been saying too. I think we will look back on this time and refer to it as the start of ww3.

      Also technology is completely different than it ever has been. Like there was not a big tome or tech difference between ww1 and ww2. So a modern world war would look completely different making it difficult to identify.

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        So far it’s been lots more grenade drones and cyber warfare than you got in the 20th century. Asymmetry is the name of the game, aside from urban positional fighting and more traditional focus on logistics and supply lines.

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      The thing is, if NATO is worth anything at all. Hitting a NATO country would bring a lot of declarations in a very short order. It would get very WW3, very quickly.

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        That’s assuming Europe wasn’t economically stretched already, and America didn’t have an incoming president who wasn’t more interested in fellating Putin.

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          Europe hasn’t even started stretching. The fact it refuses to is the reason it looks stretched.

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          Europe isn’t nearly so financially stretched as Russia, and its economy is an order of magnitude bigger.

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          Even if there’s financial concerns in Europe. We DO have reasonably strong airforces, modern weaponry and several nuclear enabled countries. I think it would be a big risk to take in their current position.

          My main concern is Trump tries to coerce Europe to leave Ukraine to fight alone. It all depends on how much in Putin’s pocket he is.

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          and America didn’t have an incoming president who wasn’t more interested in fellating Putin.

          That is a bit of a wildcard, isn’t it.

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      I’m not sure we’re on a path to WWIII if it’s Russia vs everyone else. If China decides to get involved then maybe but I don’t see any evidence they’re willing to throw in with Putin, same with Iran.

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                The Israeli government pushed for “judicial reform” last year prior to the war with Palestine. People were saying that they were doing it in order to go into Palestine and then the big attack by Hamas happened and gave them an excuse. Tensions with Iran and Israel have escalated when Israel assassinated a Hamas leader in Iran over the summer and Iran responded with missile attacks on Israel. I believe that after Trump takes office there will be something that happens that will be “the last straw.” Maybe it will be “WMDs”, hiding Hamas leaders, or some big attack by Iran. It’s going to happen.

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                  I’m still not sure why you’re so certain about this. You’re speculating that something might happen and yet you said that there’s a “100%” chance of US boots on the ground in Iran.

                  As awful as Trump is, his first term wasn’t nearly as hawkish at that of other republican presidents.

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      That’s terrifying because WW3 risks the use of nuclear weapons and every model of nuclear exchange that has been run always escalates to mutual assured destruction with billions dead and the end of civilization.

      I just finished listening to the audiobook of Nuclear War: A scenario by Annie Jacobsen. Highly recommend it.

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      Are we in the Spanish Civil War type pre-phase of WWII?

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    17 hours ago

    This is “threatens the uk” :

    “We consider ourselves entitled to use our weapons against military facilities of those countries that allow their weapons to be used against our facilities.”

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      “We consider ourselves entitled to use our weapons against what we say we believe to be military facilities of those countries that allow their weapons to be used against our facilities.”

      The important unsaid part needs to be in there. Whether an opponent actually puts military installations inside civilian locations or not (generally a bad move), this gives war criminals carte blanche to bomb whatever they feel like.

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        Not sure it’s helpful to imagine words that were not said, but that still a warning not a threat.