• jagged_circle@feddit.nl
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    Yeah that is shocking. My guess is lots of people declined to say for obvious reasons. The number has to be closer to 80%

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      I think of it this way. 41% are willing to say the killing was justified to a perfect stranger.

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        6 minutes ago

        “I have no strong feelings one way or the other.”
        ―Neutral President

        “If I don’t survive, tell my wife, hello.”
        ―Neutral President

        “All I know is my gut says maybe.”
        ―Neutral President

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      I don’t think I’d be considered “young” anymore, but I don’t know if I’d say I support it.

      Is the world better off without him? Yes.

      Did he deserve to die? Yeah, probably.

      Do I want to support vigilantism? Probably not.

      Would it have been better if he had to deal with some terrible incurable and deadly disease? Yeah, if karma was real.

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        I’m almost 40. And I support it.

        All other avenues are closed. All the proper and acceptable forms of redress are either coopted or outright captured. Civil, political, or otherwise. Peaceful Protest is universally ignored because it lacks the implicit threat of violence that makes it effective elsewhere in the world.

        “When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich.” ~ Jean Jacques Rousseau

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    I wonder how the terrorism charge affects things. Are people going to stop saying they support him out of fear or disgust? Will other people (and/or the government) go after people that say they support him because they can claim they’re supporting a terrorist? Will people become less affected by the word “terrorist” because it’s being applied in this way?

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    Many of these polls are written in way to ellicit a biased response.

    Others have already covered how this works, but I’ll add to it anyway.

    If you ask a question like “do you condemn violence against healthcare CEOs?” A lot of people are going to say yes, because they view themselves as people against violence and respond mostly to that first part.

    If you ask "did brian thompson deserve to die for his crimes? Many of the same people will say yes to that too, because people have an innate desire for justice.

    Polls do this all the time. It’s part of social engineering and plays on the phenomenon that the Asch Conformity Experiments analyzed. Around 35% of people will change their opinions to fit everyone else’s even if the answer or opinion is very obviously incorrect.

    Don’t let them take the narrative back.

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      They’re sharing such a low number to make people think it’s not supported by the vast majority

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      America is still too rich imo.
      I think economic collapse is near, next 10 years.
      That’s when we would have a chance to recalibrate this country

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    It’s a wake up call, but it’s not really going to change anything. You want universal healthcare? We need a general strike. Shut everything down for a month and demand it.

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      Rather then a general strike the perfect time to get it would have been voting for it in November. Even if everything shut down tomorrow, cities and towns burned, and people starved for months the GOP would spit on you.

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          If the DNC had a supermajority you can bet your ass we’d have single payer. We almost had it in 2010 but came up 1 vote short when an independent voted no alongside every single Republican.

          Republicans are so anti-public-healthcare that many of them want to gut medicaid, medicare, and often say things like supporting “Pure Privatization” and “get the government out of healthcare”.

          This is a clear partisan issue: DNC want it and GOP don’t want it.

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                They won’t try lol. The Harris campaign made it quite clear that it wasn’t part of their platform. The Clinton campaign argued against it. The Biden campaign said something about a public option that wasn’t mentioned again after the election. The Dems did their best to stop any momentum Sanders had when he campaigned on single-payer.

                They don’t want to do it.

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                  Vote Dem or the people directly opposed to the thing you pretend to support win. Very easy choice. You should be supporting and promoting the Dems.

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        If voting actually worked it would be illegal. It’s meaningless as long as the DNC Services Corp controls the controlled opposition party.

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          lmao why would they even play pretend? We’ve seen other places in the world like China and Russia don’t face any consequences for being opaquely authoritarian and single party.

          You’re basically saying that US Democracy is fake and that swapping policy stances every 4 to 8 years is a big act? Whats the payoff?

          I think we can vote to get all of the things we care about but people are too stupid and easily mislead to try it.