• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    But queer people domestically are apparently far less important than Muslims in another country.

    But I look forward to the people who told me “there won’t be a genocide of queer people” telling me that the genocide isn’t happening.

    They just shut put their hands over their eyes whenever I showed them this after all…

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        20 hours ago

        I never once bashed Muslims. This has nothing to do with Muslims. Stop trying to make it about Muslims.

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          10 hours ago

          Of course you are, it’s what your above comment is about, trying to make false associations as if that applies to my community here.

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            10 hours ago

            Where did I make it about Muslims? Quote me. The only time I even mentioned them was when I was talking about the “Don’t vote for Kamala” people caring about the genocide of Muslims overseas but not giving a shit about the genocides that were going to hit their doorstep.

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              9 hours ago

              It seems I was confusing you with another poster in this thread, and for that I’m sorry. You bashing “people like yourself” was ambiguous as was your comment putting down the needs of Muslims overseas.

              Of course, I support the trans community and I think both our communities are about to suffer over the next few years.

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      2 days ago

      Oh not this again, the flying carpet fallacy. Majority of American Muslims support LGBT rights, but that doesn’t matter to you because you’re judging me based on people in another country, who speak a language I don’t. Do you also bash American Christians because Ugandans lynch gays? Or do you bash American Jews because Israelis are terribly rightwing and extremist?

      Way to push away your political allies who have been on your side for decades.

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        What are you even saying? I didn’t say anything about what American Muslims support. I wasn’t even talking about them.

        I’m talking about what all the non-Muslims, many of whom never even talked to a Palestinian in their lives, said to not vote for Harris because of genocide, ignoring the fact that Trump was not only even more in favor of genocide of Palestinians than Harris, but also made his plans to implement domestic genocide very clear.

        Because the important thing was their own self-righteousness.

        Those people are not my political allies. Exactly the opposite. They’re the people who have participated in what is forcing me to flee the country for my queer child’s safety.

        Also:

        Or do you bash American Jews because Israelis are terribly rightwing and extremist?

        You might take a look at my profile and see what communities I moderate and then think about asking me that question again.

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          21 hours ago

          It’s known as a rhetorical question. I was giving examples to show how stupid this double standard is, not that I was claiming you are bashing Jews. I can’t see your mod communities on mobile and frankly it’s not relevant.

          You don’t have to be Muslim to be appalled by the carnage in Gaza or the rise of rightwing extremism now in charge of a nuclear armed state making aggressive wars on neighbors and oppressing minorities through continuous modern apartheid. Why are you so bent out of shape that this genocide shocked their conscience too? This wasn’t about self righteousness, it was about basic human morality; Biden actually spent his political capital and fought his own party and majority public opinion to accelerate Israel’s violence. He wasn’t just passively complicit but became an active accomplice and tried to make us all part of it by voting to continue it with zero changes or oversight. Browbeating the public to support it or else is not a winning strategy and he has only himself to blame, not any voters you want to castigate. A politician who can’t lead and can’t campaign and can hardly speak coherently in debates or policy discussions should be blamed for losing and not the voters. That’s how normal politics works. “Vote for the party no matter what” is not normal and you shouldn’t blame people for not sinking to your level of amorality or cynicism. You can’t blame Trump voters for ignoring his rape allegations and then get angry that Biden voters are wavering because of his inappropriate behaviors to women or his open support of genocide. It’s a double standard.

          And despite this, despite breaking his campaign promises and shunning the community who helped him win last time, the Muslim-American community STILL turned out and majority voted for Democrats as we’ve done for the last 20 years. And we collectively lost anyway but you decided to make yourself feel better by blaming the victims here.

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            21 hours ago

            I’m still not talking about Muslim-Americans no matter how much you want me to be. Sorry. If you want to argue with someone about what Muslim-Americans believe, maybe post a topic?