Also, the first class tickets for the train were totally worth it.

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    Still remember your post months ago asking for advice for moving. I’m happy it worked out for you and your family squid! Hope you guys can settle down soon (I’m sure there’s tons of paper work and other bullshit) and relax!

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      Hasn’t quite worked out yet. I still need to find a job (but I have interviews lined up) We came over a little early because we were worried that when the deportation start, everyone who can grab the first plane they came out of the US. We might never get out otherwise.

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        Best start writing metres if you want to survive in the UK. People have been mercilessly dunked into the Thames for less!

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        At first I read 30 minutes at a time, and was gonna give you crap for not leapfrogging across the pond. It’s not that big. The one next to me is bigger :P

        I’m impressed she’s sleeping. I can’t sleep on airplanes no matter what I take.

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          Do you not have a biological water jet? What happens if a shark comes swimming up to you?

          Land dwellers are weird.

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            Look man, if I encounter a shark on land, I usually squat down and say ‘pspspspspsps’ until it starts rubbing it’s head against me and I give it lots of pets.

            It’s foolish to outrun them. They find you.

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              I’m in the same boat as you already have my citizenship and flying over in October to scope out a few cities and meet up with family and work out paperwork to transfer my job since I’m full time remote and so is my wife.

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            There’s a lot of places in Europe that have an ‘accident of birth’ path to citizenship (jus sanguinis vs jus soli). Here’s the ones I found:

            • If you’re of Jewish ancestry and your family fled due to the Holocaust, there’s a number of European countries that will return your citizenship. Unfortunately my mom’s family is Russian Jews.
            • Ireland, if one of your grandparents was a citizen. This applies to my father, but not to me
            • Luxembourg (where I proceed to dox myself, lol) if you’ve got a direct line male lineage back to Luxembourg between 1850 and 1947 (or male until a female born after 1970-something, Google Luxembourg article 7 citizenship). This actually does apply to me and I know more about it, but I’ve barely started the process because uprooting my life to flee somewhere safer again is a truly miserable prospect, and the choice of agencies are either a non-profit that I can afford and maybe have some money left over to relocate but they’re slower and they don’t seem keen to deal with my document mismatch due to being trans and from Florida, or a much faster, more trans friendly and expensive business.
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            Some good info below. If you have no lineage to anywhere in Europe, there are other options depending on your job and education level (not all encompassing, for sure)

            If you get hired for a skilled labor job almost always it’ll result in a visa

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    Wow, 1st class, I didn’t realize out of context comics paid so well! :)

    I’m really impressed with how quickly you’ve made such a huge life change, that takes some serious courage for you and your family. I would love to follow along behind you, but have no path for it, so I’ll have to stick things out and hope for the best (or not worst) here.

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      I would love it if everyone who wanted to could do that. Especially my trans friends and my daughter’s trans friend.

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    I didn’t know if England was the best choice, but right now I think Neptune is probably better than here.

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      It was my only choice. I have citizenship here. (Technically I am a “British passport holder” until I go to a citizenship ceremony and say God Save the King and I’m not a spy or something, but whatever.)

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        Better to pledge loyalty to a king who’s a figurehead than one with actual power like we have here.

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        Grats on finally making the move! I hope everything works out for you and that you found a beautiful place to live.

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    Hey, congrats for taking that big leap, even if it is to the UK (having lived in a couple of places in Europe including over a decade in the UK, my opinion of the UK is pretty low).

    It takes a lot of guts to take yourself out of the environment you know (with all it’s implicit expectations of “this is how people behave”) and move into a different environment were people don’t value the same things, expect the same or behave the same.

    Good luck!

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      Thankfully, due to my British father and grandmother, I know some of the basics. But I still have a lot to learn. Thankfully I’ve got us registered with an NHS clinic (waiting to hear back from them) and just got our new phone numbers.

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        Wow, you actually did it! I remember you laying out your plan here on Lemmy a few months ago. Kudos to you

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        Yeah, it’s a bit of a headache to figure out all those details if you have nobody to help you, though generally you can figure out a lot of those things by talking to coworkers - as a saying from my country goes “Those who have a mouth can get to Rome”

        However the “expectations” I was talking about are more the nitty gritty details of interacting with others in everyday life one isn’t really aware are social conventions (because everybody follows the same version of it as you do in your country, so one naturally thinks that’s just the way people behave in general) until moving to a different country and finding out those things aren’t actually universal.

        Things like saying “it’s interesting” when an English person asks you your opinion about something is actually being very critical (you can literally use it as an insult), you’re supposed to stand on the right side of escalators if you’re not walking (especially in a Tube station) or that, unless indicated otherwise, you’re supposed to queue for things if there are other people waiting for it.

        Figuring this kind of stuff out is actually quiet an interesting personal growth experience, IMHO.

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            Often it’s more like not respecting the sanctity of the line. Americans got the tradition of the queue from the Brits. It was a source of constant annoyance when I lived in Germany when people would cut the line and others just let them without objecting.

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              people would cut the line and others just let them without objecting.

              I can’t even imagine that being the case in a place like Germany… Some places sure, but there!?

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            It’s pretty common in most countries for things like waiting for the bus to not queue and in some countries people won’t even queue when the bus arrives and they’re trying to go in, and instead just try and jostle their way in.

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    Welcome to the UK! Not sure on your final destination, but I’m based in South West England. Please feel free to reach out if you need any help or guidance, especially if you’re heading down this way 🙂.

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    America is a shithole. I got out in '17 and my quality of life has improved tenfold.

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      Feel free to not answer because this is identifiable info. However, how did you emigrate? Where to? Did you have a family with you or just yourself?

      Admittedly, while I think America is a shit hole as well, It’s got to get pretty bad before I’ll be able to convince my wife. However, I’m trying to plan out our escape plan.

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        Not who you asked the question to, but I emigrated as well. We are very fortunate to have her mother’s side of the family here, so we’re living with them at the moment.

        Sorting through all our life’s possessions and being forced to answer yes or no to ‘do we try to move this to our new home overseas’ was pretty tough.

        The most challenging part was selling the house… We are still sitting on that, sadly. We have a great realtor (I hope), but currently we’re jobless and mortgage every month is gouging into our savings.

        Thank god video games taught me to hoard funds for the OP items in late game 😅 dwindling fast, but couldn’t have done it without them.

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      Out of curiosity, where from? America is huge and some places are shittier than others.

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    Ah congrats on the move, squid. We left the US for the EU in December (planned since the summer) and I can’t imagine a better choice already. I know you’ve got a million things going on, and of course job, housing, etc are all top priority, but I have some lighter advice on getting used to a new place.

    To meet some people and make some friends, there are lots of volunteer opportunities. It’s a fun, helpful, community building way to give a little back.

    London has a TON of ex-pats/immigrants. Not that the point is to meet a bunch of Americans or anything, but any you do have left for a reason, so they’re more likely to be like minded.

    Say “yes” to any bids for connection you can. Even if getting invited to an activity that isn’t your jam, if you get an invite, go! It can be lonely at first, and feel like drinking is the only way to meet anyone. But social circles can spread quickly once you get them a little off the ground.

    Have fun, and enjoy some piece of mind!

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    How is the teenager taking it, apart from sleeping on luggage? With leaving behind friends and all that?

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      She has been an amazing trooper. Other than a breakdown after a really stressful situation where we missed the first train, then got on the wrong train a second time and had to climb up and back down a ton of stairs with our suitcases (understandable at that point) she has really made me proud of her. Especially considering how hard it is for autistic kids dealing with change. We’ll see how she fares tomorrow.

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        Good luck to both of you! If you would like some help I can reccomend Evan Edinger’s videos on his experience migrating to the UK. It may not be useful to a teen though, but he does have a couple videos comparing the UK and US school systems.

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        Sounds like somebody earned themselves a really nice new plush toy or whatever kind of thing it is they like!