I’m not talking like 10 of them, just one. Even for historical reasons.

Edit: I suppose you could answer any way you like it, but fwiw I meant like an American flag. 🇺🇲

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    Not really. America as a state is a bad thing, imo. Colonialist state built on genocide and slavery, continues to be a violent force in the rest of the world.

    I love the land itself and I have compassion for my fellow citizens, but not the country, if that makes any sense. To me the flag represents something that needs to be dismantled.

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      I guess it can mean different things to different people. To a conservative, a strong past followed up by a bright fascist future only held up by corrupt liberals, while to liberals a march toward a welcoming socialist utopia only held up by backwards thinking conservatives.

      Truth lies in the middle I am afraid, but anyway I feel like I get some of what you mean even if I inject my own lines of thinking into that as well (that both sides are naive and led around by the nose by the wealthy who purchase politicians who promise much and then deliver next to nothing or even worse sometimes).

      Personally I think that we need to make life happen locally regardless of what they do, but I understand if someone else thinks otherwise. Although in your case that’s kinda what your said maybe, except I don’t care if the tax collection system gets dismantled or not, I just think that the former is true regardless.

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        Personally I think that we need to make life happen locally regardless of what they do, but I understand if someone else thinks otherwise.

        That’s something we definitely agree on. I think our differences are basically semantic; I can’t detangle the name and symbology of America from a structure I don’t believe in, but I know that’s not universal. At the end of the day we both care about our home and the people living here.