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I shower for about 10-15 minutes and feel like that’s “long”. I literally spend half of the time with my arms over the…idk what it’s called, the bar over my sliding glass doors…just letting the hot water hit my back. It’s one of my favorite parts of the day, but after 15 or so min, my hands get pruney and I just want to get out. 30 min seems uncomfortably long.
I really want to take super long showers, but I pay the water bill so…
Fact is, the shower we have is… Strange to say the least.
It’s a wand. Only a wand. Most wand showers also hang up in a way that allows you to just, use it like a normal shower… Not this one. I actually hate it, but don’t have the budget to replace it right now, since it will likely need a partial renovation for the bathroom and that’s our only shower, so everyone is going to get a bit stinky while it’s reno’d.
What I want to do is to add a new bathroom with a shower/bath, then reno the current one, so we can shower during the reno.
You probably don’t need a full renovation to replace a showerhead. I’m not good at much, but am vaguely competent with basic plumbing. Post a photo of the shower. Most likely you just need a wrench, a new shower-head, and some nylon tape. If you want to get fancy, they also make extenders so you can add extra showerheads without a renovation.
Do you know how long a renovation would take? Maybe you could get away with washing with a wet rag/towel to save building a whole new bathroom. Unless you also just want two bathrooms because that’s neat to have.
You should be able to just buy a new shower head for pretty cheap. It doesn’t require renovation. Unless I’m seriously misunderstanding your shower.
Got a heat pump so now long showers use much less energy.
Now makes me wonder what the COP is during the summer, if you time the shower so that the heat pump works during the hot part of the day it should be pretty high. 30°c outside, barely needs to work to heat the water.
Doing my installation now for hot water. Combining gas and direct electricity. Will be more or less endless showers with a small bill. First gas then keeping it hot with electric one. Wished I had a heat pump but for another time with bigger budget.
I got the heat pump and all pipework/radiators replaced, the government paid for a bit over half of the total cost as they give you £7.5k now toward replacing a boiler with a heat pump. Plus everything is VAT free as part of the install, so it was pretty much no more expensive than doing the same thing with a gas boiler. The pipework kinda needed replacing anyway, it was shit. Putting more efficient radiators on is a fairly small job when you are having all the pipework replaced already.
Got it done before moving into the house when we bought it, if you already live there I could see it being quite disruptive.
Yea , doing it all by myself as well so nothing close to that. However this is just for water not for the heating , got pellets, wood and sun for that. Think I can get something as well for updating heating and insulation here. so will look into that later.
Shaving
Crying on the floor
The whole routine takes a while
The scalding water serves as a moderately acceptable substitute for the warmth of human contact I’m so terrible at cultivating.
I’m winning insane arguments with myself in there.
You’ll have to tell me how you do that. I always lose insane arguments with myself.
If you switch which you is you you’ll be winning those arguments instead.
I’m confused , my super ego is battling my alter ego and I lost track on who is who
And then feel guilty for wasting so much water.
Lowtechmagazine wrote an excellent article about decadent mist showers that use many small nozzles spraying very fine mist particle sizes water on you as a much more efficient way to use water for showers. I would love to install and try out something like that one day.
I want to nitpick the definition of “waste” for a moment. Yes, you are using a lot of water, and energy if the water is heated, BUT if you’re getting something remotely positive out of it (and you’re paying for it), then I would not consider it wasteful. If you genuinely want to label it as something, then let’s compromise and call it therapeutic. Deal?
Unless you’re in California or any other area with a low water table. Then it’s a huge issue.
Compare this person’s shower to the many farms growing almonds in the same state.
You are right
At the same time
I can’t whataboutism limited resources
Abolish almonds
Just abolished a bag this morning.
If I was Governor of California I’d push to make it so Almonds and Alfalfa can’t be grown during the drought seasons.
I can live without a legume and I don’t think I know a single person in my entire circle’s circles who has eaten alfalfa.
The alfalfa isn’t for humans, it’s for high intensity dairy and cattle farming.
It sucks that this is practically occult information. People have no understanding of the damage they do.
Yup, it’s just beef, cheese and milk. Though if you can find them without e.coli their sprouts are good on sandwiches too.
You must also consider the externalities, not just the financial cost that you bear personally.
it’s what would be described as “sub optimal use of a finite costly resource”
I’d like to see it that way, but fresh water scarcity is a growing problem in many areas.
I have to wonder how much impact people taking 30-minute showers would have compared to corporate [mis]use.
Corporate waste massively overshadows personal use.
Then we should take it from companies that use it to cool AI super computers, mass surveillance networks, grow the worst water to plant ratio crops possible.
You could take a shower for 4 hours and it wouldn’t make a dent to the misuse by corporations.
I saw an ad from Esso that said you can reduce gas usage by emptying out your trunk!
If a billionaire enjoyed launching brand new cars off a cliff and considered it therapeutic would it not longer be a waste?
do cars evaporate and reaccumulate in the car supply eventually?
Water in the shower goes down the drain for most people. Probably as much evaporation as an exploded car.
Water in the shower goes down the drain
…where it accumulates in underground caverns for ever!!!
Processing waste water takes time, money and produces carbon emissions.
Then say that. Not that it can’t evaporate.
The downvotes are frightening. The small things that millions of people do shape the planet.
I like a warm shower myself, but it comes with some guilt.
Just like with plant based diets it’s really just par for the course. Even the smallest amount of taking accountability is like pulling teeth.
Much easier to blame the evil corporations who exist because billionaires want to destroy the planet and not because consumers buy their things.
This is Lemmy, if you use water to water a plant, it never goes anywhere, it disappears entirely and there is no wider system that the water might become a part of, and if you eat an almond you’ve literally used all the water a city would use in a year.
I mitigate it by brushing my teeth in there.
I used a buddy’s shower once, toothbrush was in there. I told him that was a great idea, really works to get the dingleberries off my asshole hair.
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Get a mirror, shave and pee in there too. Does help justify those long shower a little.
I shave in the shower without a mirror or shaving cream. With a straight razor.
Hell yeah brother. Thought I was alone there.
Some of us live where a majority or the earth’s fresh water supply is. Water shortages tend to be localized
the noise of the shower is the only thing that drowns out the tinnitus i’ve had for over 20 years. so yea, i’m often in there til the water goes cold.
What about the hairdryer? I listen to hairdryer videos to fall asleep to.
I wonder if there are any bathhouses with waterfalls.
Hot water on skin is comforting and calming like few other things. If I could work from the shower I probably would.
We have the technology
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Dude, I’m shaving! Shaving my face and everywhere else I need. Also brushing my teeth. Still doesn’t take 30 but it feels good to be hot water my god. Just like a bath or hot tub. Why rush?
Okay first thing i do is i turn on the water, and hold the shower head in my hand, pointing it away from myself until the water is hot.
Then i quickly spray the water all over my body, so i am completely wet. Then hang up the shower head, and step under it.
Then my brain shuts off for an undetermined amount of time.
Then i put shampoo in my hair, armpits and crotch, then finally soap everywhere else.
Make sure to get all the soap off, then dry myself. Total of ~45min.
Then my brain shuts off for an undetermined amount of time.
After this, I first need to remember if I’m already done washing myself or haven’t started yet.
lol I do the same thing but I do the washing part first. Because sometimes I will be in their so long I forget if I washed myself or not yet, so I just do it first
Then my brain shuts off for an undetermined amount of time.
Pretty much this for me.
I’ve gotten pretty good at 10 minute showers before work, but I absolutely blank out from time to time.
TIL shampooing non-head hair
I have had a beard for about 20 years. The world has not run out of people who have to ask how I clean it and are somehow surprised that I use shampoo on it. “Oh, yeah, I suppose it is hair!”
falling water to temporarily wash away some of the horror of corporeal human life.
Finally! Someone gets me! 💙
I used to stare off into nothingness in the shower. It would take maybe 7-8 minutes to actually wash myself; sporadically throughout the process, I’d zone out for a couple minutes at a time.
Now, I’ve got long curly hair that needs frequent tending to. Unless I want my showers to be an hour+ long, I gotta stay focused. I still stare off into nothingness while brushing and whatnot, that helps take away the dread.
sporadically throughout the process, I’d zone out for a couple minutes at a time.
Same. And when I come back to the present, I will sometimes lose track of what was washed already because I was on autopilot/dissociating before stopping to stare at nothing.
Next time you wonder whether you already shampooed:
Grab a stretch of hair between thumb and middle finger. Pull/away from head. Listen for squeak. If you hear the squeak, put the shampoo down!
Came to say this!
Thick, curly waist-length hair requires that I be in there. God help me if I want to do a second pass at it.
This is why the world gave us rain and waterfalls.
And climate change to heat them up?
I’m tryin hard going back to fish.
