• Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world
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      If he only used it as a tool, I’d still say it’s his work. It should of course be included in the methodology section.

      But considering he lost 2 years worth of work, just because his chats got wiped? That’s more than just a tool

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          18 hours ago

          Well we are talking about the guy who pressed the delete everything button and then was surprised that everything was deleted.

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            Yes, but all was deleted were the ChatGPT chats. Is that all the research produced in 2 years? Probably nothing of value was lost.

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              Probably not. It seems misleading to characterize what he loss as his research, and a blatant clickbaity lie to claim it was all of it.

              Bucher admitted he’d “lost” two years’ worth of “carefully structured academic work” — including grant applications, publication revisions, lectures, and exams

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          “Oops all the research was set on fire” is a tale as old as grad students.

          In the 2000s it was trusting everything in a multi-year study to a single thumb drive. In the 70s it was carrying the only copy of everything in a single briefcase. Presumably at some point someone was devastated that the rain came early and wiped out all the work on the sand table.

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      Is it the LLM’s research? Do guns shoot people?
      Researching other people’s work is still research. If they start claiming other people’s work is their work without having added any value, then it’s obviously stealing, but otherwisethis argument makes no sense.

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        When you type “dear robot girlfriend, do my work, make no mistakes” into a chatbot window, and then use the slop that the average word predicting machine shat out, you’re not doing research. In fact, you’re not doing anything besides frying your brain while frying the planet.
        It’s not “research” at all, but whatever that is, llm generated it, you did nothing.

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          So if I just quickly search Wikipedia or list through a few books, is that a research? How many prompts or hours until my unnamed activity becomes research? Is it a hard limit, or just based on how hateful you’re feeling for the day?

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            If I go to the restaurant and order something, is that counts as me cooking? How many times I need to point to the waiter at the menu and ask them to bring me something, until I am officially count as a professional cook? If I ask them to make it less salty and add cheese, is it counts as the restaurant employing me as a chef or only as a liner cook?
            Just in case your chat “research” fried your brain completely, and it needs to be spelled out: no, to be called cook you need to cook the food. To do research you need to do research, not ask a word prediction machine to do it.

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            23 hours ago

            Despite what your clanker wifu told you, just saying the word “strawman” doesn’t actually constitutes as a proper position.

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              You just made an assumption on how the research was done, that’s your strawman. Then you attacked me and assumed something completely not true, that’s ad hominem. You’ll be hard pressed to find someone who hates Artificial Idiots more than me, but I also hate bad faith arguments that reduce any person to a handful of stereotypes or a caricature. Instead of throwing insults try engaging in constructive dialogue.