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    7 days ago

    This is grim, but those of us born in the 80s will remember how absolutely obsessed the media was with Britney Spears becoming “legal” and reporting on her virginity every chance they got.

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    Today, it looks like the Brooke Shields situation was normal for the time, but I assure you that it wasn’t. Plenty of people called out the behavior of those around her, and it led to the tighter restrictions on childhood sexual exploitation that we see today. There’s a reason why Brooke Shields is pretty much a solo act - when Hollywood handlers tried to cross boundaries with her, they got slapped down pretty quickly, and nobody really followed.

  • Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world
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    I remember she was nude in Blue Lagoon and she was 14 or 15 at the time. It was a scandal.

    Also, Woody Allen? Guess everyone knew he was a creep all the way back then.

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      We have accountability problems too on so many levels. Pedophilia is a good pace to start. As a society we should deal with pedophiles harshly, no matter who they are. A system where the rich are allowed to circumvent the law is our reality, but we should draw the line before pedophilia. If a rich person does what the Epstein abusers did, they should be at the mercy of the accused and their family, even if it means their death. Chain the abuser to a wall and let the abused and their families into the room with a crowbar. Thats simple justice and its long overdue.

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        The problem with that is false convictions happen. There were hundreds of false convictions for child rape and devil worship in living memory, in the 80s and 90s, the Satanic Panic.

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          fair call. Lacking a coherent and just justice system, Life in prison (but no beating) will have to be enough I guess.

    • Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca
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      It wasn’t just America. There was code used with women, girls about whose knee to avoid sitting on etc. Some people realized it was wrong but for the most part, society’s way of dealing was to ignore and pretend it wasn’t happening. And if a girl got pregnant - it was all her fault. The difference was the greater reach of TV, cable, magazines than previous decades which started to undo the secrecy. As much a people hate on Boomers, they were the ones who started saying enough already, there needs to be laws against this if people can’t figure out on their own that it is wrong.

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      Not just america but other countries are better at ignoring it or in some cases dealing with it effectively. Some still allow it even if its officially illegal. The current US leaders want this as well.

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    Is it me or is this a recent trend of making the impression that paedophilia in the 70s-80s was normal? Like a week or so

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      Things were bad in the 80s in general.

      Look at movies from the time. Revenge of the Nerds has one of the nerds dressing up in the same costume as a jock to have sex with his rival’s girlfriend. And when she finds out after the deed, she loved the rape so much she decides to dump her boyfriend.

      Blade Runner - the beloved classic sci-fi has Harrison Ford pinning a woman who says no to a wall and sexing her up as the romantic climax of the film.

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        Its so prevalent that I had an idea for a movie of a bunch of recently retired dudes being bored with getting old and deciding to re-enact a bunch of their favorite pranks from old movies only to get in JUST far enough to be in deep shit and then realise they are committing felonies and their antics trying to extract themselves.

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        Blade Runner - the beloved classic sci-fi has Harrison Ford pinning a woman who says no to a wall and sexing her up as the romantic climax of the film.

        I’ve never seen a Blade Runner movie but America does have a consent problem.

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      Hasn’t noticed that but now you mention it, yeah shit this is definitely a subversive attempt to save the predator class.

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      Just because you weren’t aware how prevalent this stuff was until now doesn’t mean the rest of us also weren’t or that it’s made up. Pedophile shit used to be way out in the open, that’s just a fact. Brooke Shields did a pornographic full nude Playboy photoshoot when she was 10 years old.

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    The problem didn’t just appear suddenly. Why do you think the situation in the US is what it is? Trash like trump don’t see anything wrong with raping kids. This problem goes back to the beginning of time. We evolve socially but they stay in their caves.

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    The 1970s… some people romanticizing it because they think it’s cool and cheesy, kids are “latchkey” and no one trying to mind your manners. In reality drug abuse was really full-on, some US cities were plagued by crime in the open, there were all kinds of shock and gore movies, and sexual permissiveness is so low that even minors are not spared – like boys from junior high literally talking about eventually getting laid.

    Magazines like that one are so much a reflection of the views of the time, and this article has the author alternately despising “mainstream” culture while simultaneously selling her as a sex object.

    No one should wonder why some men “thriving” from that decade were really fucked up, now curb-stomping civil rights so that they could get their own “freedoms”.

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      I think it was when the gold standard ended, and poverty was rampant as all the debt unwound. Black unemployment was 30%.

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        You do realize, well several things, the inflation rate wasn’t as understated then as now. The Unemployment rate wasn’t as understated as now, they only count people receiving unemployment benefits as unemployed, it’s a worthless number.

        But by 1980 the Business Roundtable of 1971’s long game to unmake liberal democracy and the new deal and resulting gains of unions and the middle class was in full swing, they cooperated together on what they agreed on, which included reducing us to poverty, and making a police state, to get to where we are heading now, fascism.

        The first thing that I mentioned, the inflation rate, meant that at that point, we had not gone through a half century of inflation registered at 2-3 percent when in fact it was 5-8 percent, under the old unchanged standard, changed in bad faith by said illiberal forces. So a minimum wage job could still support a family, but by the 80s that was noticeably becoming less true.

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    Mildly Infuriating

    Nope, that’s just full-on despicable and the people that wrote that should get serious therapy and not something unspeakable done to them