ICE has shown to be intolerant and to use excessive violent. So if you support ICE, you support intolerance and excessive violence.
Nothing more patriotic than punching a Nazi in the face.
OOL here, what’s the actual context of the photo?
Kids were doing an anti-ICE protest at school. The kid recording had a “I support ICE” sign.
AOT Annie punch, oh and the nazi sympathesizers come out of the woodwork on this thread defending him or saying its not ok.
Punching isn’t usually the best first move, but the normal rules go out the window when you’re dealing with fascists so I support him 100%. Punching is a very mild appropriate response in that context.
inglorius bastards then
Not only did he punch him, he hit him with the Magnum look too. Make fascists afraid again.
Paradox of tolerance goes hard.
I thought it stops being a paradox when you realize it’s part of the social contract. Violate it too much and you’re no longer guaranteed society’s succor.
Ultimately, it’s all a wash. The nazis we are punching would say their targets broke the social contract first. Tolerance should be an aspect of your morality, not the whole thing (and hopefully, that being said, your morality says punching nazis is okay).
you are morally obligated to go beyond than just punching one.
Nope. The concept of the contract is that those who do not practice tolerance are not protected by it.
It’s also worth exploring what intolerance is.
Thinking members of a religion/party/social group are wrong or crazy isn’t being intolerant - that’s simply disagreement. Intolerance is saying they shouldn’t be allowed to exist or to have the same rights as you.
The fascists discriminate on religion, sexual orientaion/identity, gender, political affiliation, race, national origin, and more. They are wildly intolerant, and therefore do not have to be tolerated.
It disagrees with you. Punching Nazis is not okay. Wood chipper.
this is an extremely good link
I keep thinking about how much this kid rules. He warns the other kid instead of suckering punching him, understands and accepts the consequences of his actions before he takes them, then acts without hesitation. Not only does he punch fascists, he does it with principles.
The Filmer is trying to get some Charlie Kirk attention and launch his streaming career or some shit, instead no one knows who that fucking creep is, but we all know the face of who hit him.
The filmer looks like such a punk, tall, acting cool, doing the “I have a right to be a fascist, what are you gonna do about it” bit. the kid who threw the punch is about as unassuming as you can be, probably not super popular, kind of a big guy, when he speaks, there is a waver in his voice from not being the kind of guy who initiates violence that even comes off as sort of meek. He probably got made fun of by people like the Filmer.
But the Filmer captured this brief moment, not the face of a fascist getting punched, but of the righteous anger and imperative to defend the defenseless, coming for your fascist ass. Those who try to get along, who believe in kindness and humanity, unable to be civilized about smug incivility.
I’m making these details up, I dont know anything about these young people personally, but thats the message we received. Smug self interest advocating the destruction of lives, gleefulness in the face of incredible fascist violence; met with the rising tide of popular anger against this acute sickness at the heart of a sick society.
Humanity vs the inhumane, in one still image. A picture that says more than 1000 words, it speaks to a growing sentiment among many. We see him and we see ourselves, or who we think more people aught to be.
well said
As much as people enjoyed Waltz’ performance in the opening scene and how utterly cold and ruthless his facial expression was when he asked the Frenchman “You’re hiding enemies of the state, aren’t you”, can we all just take a moment to appreciate how he also pulled off looking exactly like the pathetic and cowardly fascist he portrays in this very image?
That moment of realization after “After the war, what are you going to do with that uniform?” is perfection. Amazing actor
We need to normalize this. Fuck em.
Fuck em til they’re dead
(South park reference for context)
“Social media made y’all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.” -Mike Tyson
As much as a scumbag MT is, he does make a good point.
I coulda went for the Conan (Barbarian, not O’Brien) quote, but felt Tyson was more salient. That said, may as well drop the Conan quote too.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split.
He gave him fair warning, which was a fuck ton more than what ICE does.
No hesitation. What a hero.
Its vexing that 4chan has a better honed moral compass than the fucking AG.
I’ve heard a reasoning that 4chan is always a counterculture site against the current culture, and if 4chan starts to be more similar to my beliefs, then we have some problems in here.
4chan mainly is a place for the social outcasts. Thus, the moment you begin to relate to the people on 4chan is the moment you detach from your faith into the goodness of society.
What have they been giving up being on the alt right now that they know Epstein made them Notsees
Not only that, but there’s evidence they have been used as useful idiots. People who could be so easily manipulated that they would vote against their best interests. Gamergate and pizzagate are some examples of this and Republicans using christianity is another.
saw the whole video, that dude is a king.
Yes and the other kid was just a spinless little asshole who needed to learn that irl actions have consequences.
From how the rest of the interaction went I’m afraid that’s the opposite of what he learned after the police intervened
Whiny little cunt. “No, he said a bad word at school! How dare he do that while I’m advocating for fascism!”
It’s the republican playbook. “Decorum!”
Maybe didn’t learn it right away, but I imagine his peers will teach him
Hopefully that school is a zero tolerance facility and he also gets suspended for being involved in a fight. It wouldn’t be the first time that policy was weaponized against an asshole.
Video for anyone who hasn’t seen it
Gold.
Brown coats FTW!Hahahahahahaha
I can’t believe that shitrag posted that, I’m dying
“You can’t hit me, you’ll get in trouble” - “ok”, WHAM
“O YOU SWORE, THAT’S AGAINST SCHOOL CODE”
I thought conservatives valued machismo, why’s the little dude posting a video of him being the world’s littlest bitch? I deadass hope this is AI generated because it’s beyond parody XD
They praise who they think are strongmen because they’re personally spineless cowards
I’m still new to Lemmy but I really like how in the thread where the video is posted—even though it is now locked—it is mainly people saying that the nazi kid can get fucked. This is such a wonderful departure from the right wing bullshit that plagues Reddit. Because fuck nazis and fuck websites that tolerate them.
On Lemmy you can advocate for violence against literal Nazis.
Ehhh.
If hate is the opposite of love, then hating hate inverts that back to love <3
Say what you like but only love is real. Hate is stuck in the imagination. You say “not see” here but still don’t see see the original meaning in that. You do know that Hitler was Jewish don’t you?
There’s no J in Hebrew.
Hitler having Jewish grandparents is a myth
I agree that only love is real. Its capital G Good. But I have a hard time following what you are trying to say after that sorry. Could you elaborate?
If ask a real question. I must where you ackchoochooally struggle.
🙏 ty that really cleared it up
I hate this comment for you. ❤️
Crazy how the pro-ICE guy needed four different adults to rescue him
If that ain’t fascism in a nutshell.
Shame nobody else in school had the guy’s back.
And even the school cop clearly thought he was a dweeb, which is almost impressive
school cop
Such a weird-ass concept, what a fucked-up country.
Her face looking at the sign was like “Wow, okay, um, you can think that sure”
Agreed, I’m proud of the puncher, but the video was obviously posted by this little Stephen Miller Jr prick who got exactly what he wanted.
I don’t know what the answer is but I think it might be more violence?
I have a theory that a lot of things are going to get more violent after the election. A Democratic Congress will greatly restrain the President, greatly reducing the disincentive to dispense street justice on ICE. On the off chance that Republicans manage to hold Congress by stealing the election, waiting on democracy will no longer be tenable, which means it’s game on.
Yeah, that other kid was a punk bitch who needs to get his ass kicked to learn his place in life. Someone messed up raising him, and they raised a cunt.
