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    $68.50 on doordash a day? for one person? also i find it hard to believe that someone would be ordering chili’s, applebee’s, and hooters when those are some of the worst quality food and people only go there to sit down

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      i had to do some gig delivery at one point and I can assure you that people are absolutely ordering that shit on the apps. And this was in a large city where you could get pretty much anything you want

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        i believe you but i seriously question those customers’ judgement. i’ve delivered ubereats/doordash as well and it sent me to those places like 1% of the time, most of what i delivered was Chinese places, five guys, and a local taco place

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          I used to be embarassed about my sushi habit in college and it was like 60$ every 3-4 months. Man, i miss those nights. We were all so young and dumb and horny and sushi was new and cool. We thought we were so cool in our “fancy” thrifted clothes (back when thrifting was cheap) that didn’t really fit, driving beater old cars downtown. It all seems so quaint looking back but at the time it was just amazing being alive.

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            I still religiously hunt for good sushi and deals for it. Before covid I found a place that still did really good, unique, specialty rolls for $15 and had a happy hour section of also based rolls that were $5. I mean this is a place that still insists on putting asparagus into rolls and it works so fucking well. Good sushi/seafood IMO is one of those foods that money really does make the difference for, compared to steak or cocktails.

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      Bc the overhead on delivery is so high; they couldn’t afford more premium food.

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      A lot of people have appalling taste, often just for lack of options or experience. You wouldn’t believe the shit Minnesotans eat on purpose even though they don’t have to.

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      Dudes spending half a million Rand on DoorDash FFS. I know you can’t compare currencies and shit, but that’s enough for a large family to live comfortably in South Africa, in a nice suburban housing complex even.

      First world excess really makes me angry for some reason lol.

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    I do self-criticism constantly because I’m trapped in a Maoist cult where comrades (white terrorists) criticize me mercilessly for having a fascist credit card (VISA Silver Signature Rewards)

    They won’t let me order vegan pizza anymore because the phone is fascist and “summoning my pizza slaves with a bourgeois app” is “bad vibes”

    This is the moment that I finally realize that the Maoist cult was right all along.

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      Absolutely shameful to order Hooters when there is literally any other wing restaurant around, and I checked, there’s two Wingstops near this man. And it’s not because it’s a breastaurant, it’s because the food is terrible.

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        It is shameful to order Hooters even if you are in the middle of the desert, they magically have a location right there, and you will starve to death if you don’t eat there.

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        Remember back when wings were, what, 10? 25 cents? “Back in my day you could get a stake dinner for a dollat” except back in my day the minimum was was exactly what it is now. : p shit’s gotten so, so much more expensive in the last 20 years.

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          Yeah I guess it’s possible.

          I last visited Applebee’s like a decade ago because I had a giftcard. We ordered just the appetizer sampler. The meatballs were still frozen in the middle. We left the card on the table and walked out.

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        You go for the weird Star Wars arcade game and the scary animatronics

        That feel when you want the weird Star Wars arcade game and the scary animatronics but Chuck-E-Cheese is no more sicko-wistful

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          Yeah those kinds of places can’t survive when working people have no disposable income. It’s part of what’s driving all the isolation and lonliness. All the free third places are long gone except libraries, and many of the paid third places are collapsing because there isn’t enough disposable income going around to keep them open. People stay home and doomscroll because they already paid for the phone plan and can’t afford to do anything else.

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          The ghost kitchen is at least priced competitively with other low-rent pizza joints. Last time I went to a Chuck E Cheese the pizzas were like $10 each and worse than Little Caesars.

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      Dude probably doesn’t tip on that order and writes in “you got to awooga and I didn’t, there’s your tip” in the notes, so it’s actually saving money on the order vs other places.

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    They make their own food dork

    Also imagine posting such a self own of your taste buds, I always eat at a hole in the wall ran by a Chinese grandma that berates me for not being a fatass and gives me free food

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      The best Chinese food is always in a dirty room somewhere with 90% elderly mah jong players and front of house that greet regulars by yelling “WHY ARE YOU HERE!?”

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        she like, fusses over me like i was her kid, its adorable and i love her

        also yeah all their food is in this series of layered mystery vats that are impeccably clean with a 100 rating that theyre very proud of. letting it roast in the juices makes it chefs-kiss its also apparently really low on labor, they just throw it all in the vat on monday and keep it simmering all week, tastes amazing. shes from like guangdong or something and used to run a communal kitchen there but moved to america when her kids moved here for university many decades ago. she hasnt been back to china in a long time so i showed her videos of her home town and she was shocked at the infrastructure changes

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        If an immigrant owned restaurant has negative reviews from entitled white people saying “service was poor” or “staff seemed rude” I’m immediately more inclined to go there tbh. Food is always top tier.

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          TRUE. There’s one near me that I frequent, the owners recognize me and this is kinda weird but they have a specific huge glass that they always bring out for me 'cuz they know I drink a lot and always send me home with a bunch of free candy 'cuz they know I’ve got four younger siblings.

          But once they bring out your order they disappear into the back. You gotta ring the bell for any kind of service, just a quirk of the restaurant being run by Chinese immigrants in their 60s.

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            But once they bring out your order they disappear into the back. You gotta ring the bell for any kind of service

            Lol I bet people whine about that all the time

            Upper class Americans acting all porky-scared whenever the kindest soul from another country doesn’t understand the servitude culture in America where you’re expected to get on your knees and kiss the customers’ ass with a forced smile and an overly positive tone of voice

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              Word. God forbid you have to get up to fill your own water glass or something. Like i have nothing but admiration for food ninjas who just appear in your field of view to ask if you need anything then vanish when you blink, or who keep your glass full the whole meal but you never see them, but people shouldn’t have to work like that.

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          Hell yeah. Your restaurant doesn’t do the fake smile customer service bullshit? Count me in. Most of the time the people working at places like that are perfectly polite, they’re just not doing the performative fake friendliness demanded of us workers.

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        There used to be a Chinese restaurant (or what we call Chinese in Ireland, half of it was chips and curry) near me that had ridiculously cheap meals and the food was amazing. They only accepted cash and even though there was a dining area, the only people who ever sat there were the worker’s kids doing their homework. I came to the conclusion that it had to be a front for money laundering because the food was so good and so cheap

        Now its being gentrified :(

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          Mob front restaurants are awesome. Some of the best pizza and sandwhich shops in Philadelphia in the us are fronts for the mob. Or were, 20 years ago, i haven’t been back in a long time.

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        I think the stereotype is that if there isn’t at least one kid doing homework you should re-consider eating there.

        God, immigrant run restaurants. All the stories about doctors and engineers and skilled semastresses and on and on who were shut out of their porfession by racism and regulations so they started restaurants because it’s a relatively accessible way to get a small business up and running.

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      I’m neurodiverse and cant cook without support really? Other than like, pasta and scrambled eggs. Im sorta learning though.

      But yeah I get delivery like once or twice a week and if my disaiblity staff and I cant cook a week itll be more. And I’m living on socsec.

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        You don’t need to feel insecure or anything if the situation doesn’t apply to you. I mean that in a nice way and don’t think you should feel ashamed at all if you’re in a bad spot right now. It’s enough that you’re trying to learn and do better.

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          Thanks. Idk why but these posts do make me feel insecure. I know when people here mock people like this they dont mean the neurodiverse but I still feel the need to remind them about us because I feel like we’re collateral damage.

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            It’s a normal thing to get food delivered, and especially normal if you’re disabled, but maybe excessive in some cases in the guy who spent $25k a year on it.

            Maybe there are meal services that deliver food to disabled people in your area? You could possibly take advantage of that. If you would otherwise go with a restaurant I’d always recommend seeing if the restaurant itself offers delivery instead of using grubhub/doordash/etc. You often save money that way and also the driver will be paid better. And tip generously.

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              Most weeks me and my staff cook enough food for 6/7 days! Even if its the same thing every day it usually works ok. But also my stomach is not used to small portion sizes so i usually cook some pasta or something late in the day which isnt healthy :/ But Im working on it.

              I try to get direct delivery from local places. I use doordash and grubhub for chains that dont deliver on their own.

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    What the hell? With that same budget this guy could have gotten twice as much catering. Or had food in person at much fancier restaurants. For that same amount of money he could have like flown to France and had a 3 Michelin star chef feed him directly into his mouth like a baby bird.

    Or he could have at least ordered food that isn’t dogshit. How do you eat $4000 of Chick-fil-A per year and not die?

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      Once you use it a couple times the convenience of these apps grabs you and you don’t realize how much you’re spending until you do something like this. It’s basically the same psychological trick that microtransactions in video games use, just keep spending here and there and then you wake up and your account is banned and the $5000 you spent on skins including the $200 you spent on loot crates to get the Hextech Annie is all gone.

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    maybe this is weird of me but i have nothing but contempt for people who regularly order doordash/grubhub. Something about paying some servant over an app to go buy your treats for you pisses me off

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      I do self-criticism constantly because I’m trapped in a Maoist cult where comrades (white terrorists) criticize me mercilessly for having a fascist credit card (VISA Silver Signature Rewards). They won’t let me order vegan pizza anymore because the phone is fascist and “summoning my pizza slaves with a bourgeois app” is “bad vibes”

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      The techbro types like this sure, but it provides a valuable service not just to disabled people but also to people who live in food deserts without transport, have kids and can’t deal with cooking, or just want to occasionally be lazy for a night etc etc. The concept of food delivery isn’t itself exploitative in isolation.

      Just tip your fucking drivers properly and treat them like human beings (I know treating hospitality staff like humans is alien to most Americans, but I can hope).

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        God damn, we need a real society and not doordash as a way to keep old people fed.

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          I hadn’t even considered that. Does meals on wheels still exist? It was a life line for a lot of elders decades ago and things have just gotten worst.

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      Getting food delivered can be a normal thing for disabled or elderly people but leave it to capitalism to give us the worst possible version of it with extra exploitation

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      Same.

      People also like to bring up disability as a reason for these services to exist. And I’d be perfectly fine with grocery and food delivery on this scale if it was just for the disabled and elderly. But as a person with a physical disability, I’m going to call bullshit and be real for a second, 90+% of the people using these food slave apps are just lazy bastards with no disability preventing them from cooking for themselves.

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        food delivery wouldn’t even be that bad in a world not dominated by capitalism. but car infrastructure combined with fast food combined with profit seeking at every level, sucks all potential out of it

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            a communist centralised and planned distribution system

            Basically what Chinese cops did during the most severe COVID lockdowns, although you had to cook it yourself after they brought it to you.

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              India has chai wallahs and the food guys who deliver meals from home or restaurants and apparently have just an absurdly sophisticated logistics sysem run by what’s somewhere between a union and a guild.

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            One of the guiding principles of Soviet city planning was laying out districts so you didn’t need this. Most factories and workplaces had canteens on site, and all those terrible terrible brutalist apartments that somehow only exist in winter were built with schools, groceries, transit links, gyms, theaters and restaurants withing easy walking distance. “Fifteen minute cities” except real, not some neoliberal public private bullshit. Idk if it always worked or how well it worked, but that was the goal of a lot of city planning. They wanted people to have everything they would need within like a square km or something.

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      i’ve worked as a driver and server, and people who order food a lot (or eat out a lot) give me bad vibes for the reason in your last sentence. assuming they aren’t doing so out of necessity

      but i try to step back from the vibe because ultimately we all live in a system where we’re inundated by fine-tuned psychiatrist-designed corporate manipulations from every fucking angle, all pushing and pulling and twisting to try and get us to spend more and work more. like when it comes down to it consumers as a class aren’t really people with agency.

      i guess what i’m saying is i feel that distaste due to having to serve white boaters (and associating most users of the service with that demographic) but i think a principled material analysis is more useful.

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        “Eating out” a lot would make sense from a sustainability perspective due to the scale wouldn’t it? I know in the US it’s pretty expensive generally, but if there were some sort of cafeteria style thing it should be less than making your own food in terms of cost, labor and resources right?

        I guess I’m kinda thinking about the street food scenes that a lot of countries have (which have a few other issues), and have some sort of middle-ground betwen them.

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          Yeah division of labor and economy of scale could actually be leaned into a lot harder in an economy without profit and exploitation, all while avoiding many of the negative experiences and connotations we have under capitalism.

          Like there’s nothing inherently demeaning or problematic about cleaning houses or serving food, it’s just that our current system relies on the existence of an underclass of people effectively forced into the jobs and paid less than the cost of their social reproduction. And the otherization that takes place to create and reinforce that class, as well as a result of its existence, is dehumanizing.

          But I really wouldn’t mind working at like a pizzeria or cleaning service if the jobs didn’t entail poverty and dehumanization.

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            Well it helps if you feel like you aren’t alienated from your labor as well. “Making pizzas so the boss makes a dime and cuts me a paycheck” is a lot different than “I make pizzas cause they are tasty and people like eating them”

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              yeah exactly, making and serving food that people like is a blast, working in a chill environment with friends is a blast

              just sucks working for a small business tyrant with a massive truck and vacation home, while you can’t afford rent or healthcare and have odd hours that oscillate unpredictably between too few and too many

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      Idk have you considered disabled/neurodiverse people who either cant or struggle to cook for themselves or even theoretically can but just have executive dysfunction? Thats me btw as my other posts here indicate.

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      In principle it should be fine. America is car hell, lunch breaks are short if you even get them, often you flat out don’t have time to go get a meal, or are extrmely limited in your options.

      If the delivery workers were properly compensated, the cars were company issue, the company paid for the gas, they got regular hours, etc etc it wouldn’t be worse than any other capitalist job, albeit more dangerous because driving.

      But this is capitalism so fuck those workers, it’s all hyper-exploitative gig economy shit.

      But some, maybe a lot, of workers are put in a position where having someone bring food to them can be really helpful.

      Idk if this is even part of cultural memory anymore but there was a time when many if not most factories, office buildings, and other places that employeed a lot of people in the us had cafeterias where workers ate. Like on site, in the building. You just go down to the ground floor and there’s a cafeteria with freshly made food. Maybe good, maybe bad, but it was there. That shit all disapeared when the auto-cannibalism started in the 80s.

      Now people have to go downstairs, go to their car, drive to a store, order, wait for their food, drive back to work. If you’re not near food places you may not have enough time to eat, or even to get food at all and you’re stuck with whatever you can bring from home. And as much as people try to trivialize it making food that tastes good at home requires skill, it takes time, and you need to have enough spoons to do it every day.

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    Imagine having enough money to not only have a very well equipped kitchen but also hire a part time private chef to prep meals for you and you spend five figures on garbage that poor people are stuck eating because they don’t have time to cook for themselves.

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      You know what, I get hooters. I understand wanting to be served by busty ladies in tight uniforms. I’m only a woman. But why would you ever order take out from a place where the whole point is ogling the staff.

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        i got dragged to hooters by a bunch of chud coworkers at the worst manual labor job I ever had, and it was embarassing. married guys nearly twice my age trying to hit on women 5 years younger than me. the food was shit. the drive was extremely out of the way and we passed 5 superior joints