As a dad, that’s very concerned about my children ....
I may disagree with it, but his kids aren't mine, so he, as the parent, he can prevent his daughters from owning that offending clothing.
...as well as everyone else’s kids in the district,
And here's where it goes off the rails. Why don't you keep your own parenting in your house instead of your neighbor's house, eh? Are you also going to decide what books other parent's kids read? How about what religious beliefs (if any) other parent's kids follow? None of that is your business. If other parents are okay with their kids dressing that way you shouldn't get a say on that.
Yes they most likely will. Because Christians are commanded to do so by their religious text which furthermore makes it pretty clear that not doing so is a Bad Thing™ (not damnable but God will be displeased). So the more fundamentalist denominations take this literally and proselytize all over. However, the case for Christians forcing their morals and worldview on literally everyone is, I think, far weaker.
Because kids interact with each other at school. The whole point of rules is to affect social interaction, to shape how people’s behavior is able to affect others.
Because kids interact with each other at school. The whole point of rules is to affect social interaction, to shape how people’s behavior is able to affect others.
A parent choosing to use public schools doesn’t get 100% control over what their child is exposed to. That “kids interact with others at school” is the point where the parents teaching in their child needs to hold up when the parent isn’t there. I would think that is a large part of raising children. A parent knows as some point in the future their child will be an adult, and out of the control of the parents. Interaction with other kids at public schools is where that first is encountered.
If a parent demands 100% control of the children 24/7/365, then the choice is home schooling, and hopefully the child can afford good therapists when they are an adult to undo that damage.
Ever heard of peer pressure in high school? Sure you can tell your own kids to wear proper clothing. But if she has friends walking around in beach clothing and she's not, she's gonna be left out.
Board just has to state: wear what you want but see to it that it at least goes to the top of your knees and it covers your ribs.
Ever heard of peer pressure in high school? Sure you can tell your own kids to wear proper clothing. But if she has friends walking around in beach clothing and she’s not, she’s gonna be left out.
You're arguing a different issue. Remove any midriff elements from the conversation and you could be talking about the latest designer shoes or brand of jeans. So midriff specifically is immaterial to that argument. If you want an environment of uniform dress, then you're arguing for school uniforms. Arguments pro and con of school uniforms are outside of the scope of this discussion.
Board just has to state: wear what you want but see to it that it at least goes to the top of your knees and it covers your ribs.
And then we get back to the problem that the Board is trying to get away from which is educators being forced to become "fashion police". There's been historical problems with that including selective enforcement. The actions the Board are taking are specifically to let educators be educators.
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As a dad, that’s very concerned about my children ....I may disagree with it, but his kids aren't mine, so he, as the parent, he can prevent his daughters from owning that offending clothing.
...as well as everyone else’s kids in the district,And here's where it goes off the rails. Why don't you keep your own parenting in your house instead of your neighbor's house, eh? Are you also going to decide what books other parent's kids read? How about what religious beliefs (if any) other parent's kids follow? None of that is your business. If other parents are okay with their kids dressing that way you shouldn't get a say on that.
Sadly, there are plenty of people trying to dictate what other people's children read based on their own feelings
They'll indoctrinate other people's children into their religion too, if they get the chance.
Yeah my girlfriend’s kids get crap for being atheists from Christian classmates who were clearly taught to act that way by their parents
Yes they most likely will. Because Christians are commanded to do so by their religious text which furthermore makes it pretty clear that not doing so is a Bad Thing™ (not damnable but God will be displeased). So the more fundamentalist denominations take this literally and proselytize all over. However, the case for Christians forcing their morals and worldview on literally everyone is, I think, far weaker.
I thought Bible commanded everyone to love thy neighbour and everything
Yes. And in those culty spaces, they redefine love. It's a brainwashing technique.
but not those neighbors
Maybe focus on parenting your own child instead of everyone's.
Also does this guy have a humiliation fetish?
Lunatic pulls stupid stunt to get his way, policy voted affirmative regardless.
Because kids interact with each other at school. The whole point of rules is to affect social interaction, to shape how people’s behavior is able to affect others.
A parent choosing to use public schools doesn’t get 100% control over what their child is exposed to. That “kids interact with others at school” is the point where the parents teaching in their child needs to hold up when the parent isn’t there. I would think that is a large part of raising children. A parent knows as some point in the future their child will be an adult, and out of the control of the parents. Interaction with other kids at public schools is where that first is encountered.
If a parent demands 100% control of the children 24/7/365, then the choice is home schooling, and hopefully the child can afford good therapists when they are an adult to undo that damage.
Ever heard of peer pressure in high school? Sure you can tell your own kids to wear proper clothing. But if she has friends walking around in beach clothing and she's not, she's gonna be left out.
Board just has to state: wear what you want but see to it that it at least goes to the top of your knees and it covers your ribs.
You're arguing a different issue. Remove any midriff elements from the conversation and you could be talking about the latest designer shoes or brand of jeans. So midriff specifically is immaterial to that argument. If you want an environment of uniform dress, then you're arguing for school uniforms. Arguments pro and con of school uniforms are outside of the scope of this discussion.
And then we get back to the problem that the Board is trying to get away from which is educators being forced to become "fashion police". There's been historical problems with that including selective enforcement. The actions the Board are taking are specifically to let educators be educators.