Conservatism only holds one position, there should be in-groups that are protected but not bound by law, and out-groups that are not protected but bound by law.
She’s not even looking where she’s pointing and yet she’s got her finger on the trigger.
Weapons handling score 0/10
Apparently he’s also hugging the side of the gun where hot shell casings eject. I remember the gun people were all over these fools calling various fouls.
Also her wrist is bent, which is something that makes me unreasonably angry whenever I see it, whether in real life or in movies/TV.
After all these years I just realized he also has his thumb behind 🤣
That shot is sure gonna look sooo cool… for .5 seconds
Thumb bite is a bloody mess.
Usually only takes one object lesson.
I have a few tiny guns like that. It would jam on the next shot from limp wristing it. She bought it because it was cute, has no idea how to use it.
For the life of me I cannot see why training requirements violate the 2A.
Because racists would inevitably set the requirements.
For the life of me I cannot see why training requirements violate the 2A.
I think in a perfect world, we should have some sort of impartial training. In the world we live in, I wouldn’t trust Trump’s administration to set the training requirements. I’m sure step 1 would involve turning over your social media accounts.
Not to mention the guy is holding the buttstock under his armpit and he’s got his other hand all the way up at the end of the rail guard…
I still think well-regulated militias should be a pre-requisite for owning firearms, at least as far as compliance with the 2A. Like have them be registered and require at least biannual training and ammo inventories, and there you go, easy. But something at least.
Any time you interact with a 2A online they will swear to high heaven that they personally keep their guns locked in a childproof vault and make safety priority one.
Fucking classic
The GOP = scared white snowflakes
I wish the internet would get over its collective obsession with pointing out conservative double standards. They don’t care that they have double standards. In fact its a power move to show that they’re above whatever petty moral code everyone else has tied themselves to
You’re correct, of course. But there are still a certain amount of Republican voters who like to pretend they have principles. Then there are also so-called centrists and politically disengaged folks. Sometimes they need to be reminded exactly who these charlatans are, so there can be no excuse for confusing one side of the political spectrum with the other.
Yeah, I came to the same understanding when I used to counter conspiracy nuts denying climate change and evolution etc.
You’ll never convince them they’re wrong or hypocrites… But people who stumble upon the thread that are not super critical thinkers will see the discussion and you can help them realise the person is actually full of shit.
Sometimes they can lie believably enough that people fall for it, and some of those people will snap out of it when they see the contradiction and logical fallacies.
They’ve beaten you into submission.
I’m not beaten, I’m suggesting alternate strategy
What alternate strategy?
To be clear, I think I mostly agree with you, that certain people are entrenched and merely pointing out hypocrisy does nothing to change their ways of thinking. What other options are there?
Idk really, community organizing, forming mutual aid groups, etc. Getting out and talking to your neighbors. Just tired of seeing the same old double standards posted like it’ll matter, and nothing actually getting done besides furious typing
You specifically, explicitly, didn’t do that
No, you didn’t. You said to stop pointing out their hypocrisy, to let them get away with it. That’s all you suggested.
LARPing valuable insight is the least amount of action that people can put in while feeling they contributed something. “Oooh, look at them. Now someone else do something about it!”
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When will people realize that republicans do not support the first (edit: SECOND, lmao, but yeah first too) amendment? They support use of force to further their agenda. That’s it. Making gun ownership out to be a right wing thing is such a gigantic fuckup.
once fascists get full power, they will attempt to ban it totally throughout the country. mmuch like with russia, last thing putin wants is the populace with firearms.
Been saying it for years now:
Perfect hypocrites.
Anyone left at this point is a full-on cultist, fully subsumed into the hivemind.
Hypocrisy is only a failing if you believe in fairness or justice.
That is a disgustingly true observation
These people are the people who say ‘without God, what would stop people from doing bad things?’
They’re fucking sociopaths is what they are, anyone who says that.
What that means is that they literally cannot concieve of the idea of making up their own, independent, at least somewhat consistent moral framework.
The only way they know how to think is backwards, is to justify already reached conclusions.
Altemeyer described this pretty well in Right-Wing Authoritarianism. He argues that right-wing authoritarians value strength above all other traits, and the ability to disregard rules is a signifier of strength. Thus, leaders who cheat are idolized by RWAs.
Which makes any system other than ‘might makes right’ impossible to maintain. Rule breaking is destabilizing but to value rule breaking as an ideal is corruptive and destructive. Systems can’t work if the rules that govern them are not followed well enough. The only system left is one where rules of the mighty can only be enforced through might because everyone is trying to break the rules all the time and won’t exercise any self-control.
But realistically, these leaders don’t want a lawless world, they want a system that upholds rules that ensure their own success and safety. Breaking the rules is a temporary totem for them that only lasts as long as it takes to defy the current system and implement their own. But they require a mob of rule breaking fanatics to do it and that selfish mob still exists after the leaders take charge, so they created the very group that will make it impossible for them to have a their system at all, selfish people who think breaking the rules is a cultural ideal. And that, is why Russia is corrupt as fuck, and GOP America will be as well. Rules enforcement through might gets turned on the same mob they used to gain power. Draconian and brutal because might is the only thing that effectively contains this mob of selfishness. Reason, self control, communication, education, non of that will work.
Without rules we choose to follow, we cannot have a civilization that is anything but brutal and violent, corrupt and inherently fragile.
GOP Keynote speakers for this violent stunt.
Loved Jon Stewart this week
Yes we all know. Umfortunately the hypocrisy is completely invisible to them, so posts like this are a circlejerk at best.
It’s good to remind others not in the loop why the propaganda is nuts.
But yeah you’re not convincing MAGA losers of this. How an event makes them feel is more important than the facts and consistency it represents.
Uuuhmmmfortunately
Trump’s rhetoric was similar to that of Los Angeles-based federal prosecutor Bill Essayli, who tweeted over the weekend that, “If you approach law enforcement with a gun, there is a high likelihood they will be legally justified in shooting you.”
Have they seen the multiple angles of footage of this?
Man had a phone in one hand and the person he was helping up in the other.
Unless he had a third hand somewhere, I struggle to see where the fucking gun was.
They really be taking the old GOP doctrine to psychopathic levels just to own the Libs.
They’ll put whatever spin they can on this to justify the actions of their gestapo.
Jon Stewart says it best:
“They’re lying. We saw it. And that’s how brazen they lie when they know we’ve seen the truth. That’s how they lie when they know we know. Imagine how they lie when there’s no evidence to contradict them. And maybe that more than anything was why Alex Pretti reall was a threat. Because he was brandishing a weapon, a handheld aluminum, 1080p, 60 FPS, weapon of mass illumination. Because there is nothing more dangerous to a regime predicated on lies than witnesses who capture the truth.”
Yes, they have seen the videos. They are lying. They are liars.
*gasp!*
Yeah, was probably worth noting the question was rhetorical.
Gaslight, Obstruct, Project. That’s the doctrine after all.
Besides which, law enforcement is not legally justified in shooting you damn near no matter what you do. A cop is not a court of law. A cop is not a jury and judge. A cop is not an executioner. Their legal jurisdiction extends to getting you in front of a courtroom and nothing else.
local nazi supporter on my Facebook basically says it’s his fault for being stupid because he should have announced that he had a gun when he began interacting with them
I’m sure that that would go over well
edit: anybody willing to approach ICE/CBP and loudly declare that they have a gun on them?
Didn’t work for Philando Castile, and that was just a road-side interaction with a “standard” cop. Still murdered.
They look like the inept culprits of a murder mystery right after they’ve been discovered and about to make a getaway.
If you look quickly, it just seems they were holding a smartphone, not a weapon
(paraphrasing that dumb fuck on "news"max that said that a protester holding a phone totally looks like someone aiming a gun to kill an officer)
What’s wild about the difference is these two are obviously not using their guns in a responsible manner (posing while holding their weapons poorly) but Mr. Pretti was (concealed and holstered because there was no apparent imminent threat to him).
But as usual, some people think Guns Used By Friends Are Good, Guns Used By Enemies Are Bad.
Right now any idiot can buy a gun, that might not be true for long though
I’m not from the US and only have a vague understanding of the dynamics on the other side of the pond. But damn would it be funny if of all the things he does this would be his downfall. Like, there’s a million reasons not to let that guy near any public office… The pedophilia, the ridicule of disabled people, the dementia, the dismantling of democracy and its institutions, the treatment of women, the lying, you know this list could go on forever. But now there’s this one thing he says that any other country on earth regards as a reasonable and sensible thing to enforce, which is “people shouldn’t be allowed to carry guns around all the time” and suddenly he has a problem with important voter demographics. Like… this is a problem now? Unlike… *wildly gesturing at everything*…?
He didn’t lose any support when he said “Take the gun first, due process second” in his first term, so this won’t hurt him either. The talking heads are up in arms about it, but this story will be dead in a week and his supporters will forget. All they care about is hurting brown people. It’s so dumb.
Guns are more important than human life in the USA. Don’t believe me? We have lost 1.5 million Americans to gun violence in the last thirty years. That is more American citizens than all wars we have fought COMBINED… Crickets
Trump could molest a child that looks like his daughter standing in the middle of Fifth Avenue, pull out a gun, and execute her on live television for all to see and not lose a voter.
Trump mentions something negative about guns and voters threaten to leave his camp. That about sums up the insanity we are dealing with.
I saw an interview of some folks on the street in the south yesterday. “My 401k is doing good so im happy with how hes doing.”
Literally the most selfish people I’ve ever heard of. Unless you take from them in an obvious way, they just keep on truckin.
The US was all about immense narcissim from the very start, so it isn’t surprising. It’s disturbing and disgusting, but makes sense.
I mean those other things aren’t garunteed by what Americans call the bill of rights.
As I said,
I’m not from the US
so I act fully within my moral frame of reference to consider having that appended to a constitution as utterly insane.
But, you know, that Bill of Rights also includes amendments about e.g. requiring warrants to enter homes or due process and I guess there’s a whole bunch of laws about the stuff trump does I mentioned or didn’t mention above. But yeah, guns are obviously special or something.
Guns are addictive…
They’re fun as fuck but if you spend enough time around them, you constantly aware of not having them when you don’t. Like, a gun in another room 20 feet away, and someone will got get the gun.
An explosion and fireball literally at your fingertips gives a huge boost of adrenaline and testorone on top of it, so it’s not just the mental "this is a great stick!’ base thinking but an actual physical addiction to the biochemicals that are released.
Same thing with huge v8 engines. There’s no lead but the exhaust fumes aren’t much better.
There’s a reason people are like they are, we might as well understand it. And the reasons why Americans latch on to guns and trucks is pretty easy to understand. It’s not something unique to Americans either, this is just where all the guns and v8s are
Hmmm. Reading this makes me think, maybe you shouldn’t have a gun.
I mulled over buying one for a few years and finally bought one a few weeks ago. It’s not a decision I took lightly. In my mind, the absolute best outcome of owning a firearm is that it is an absolute waste of a lot of money.
If that’s the reason for guns and huge cars, then it’s one of the best takes I’ve ever seen for regulating the fuck out of both.
There are plenty of other ways to feel empowered, big boy. Go downhill mountain biking. Learn martial arts. Become a part time lumberjack. Whatever. But if you just need hobbies that make you pound your chest, there’s really no reason to pick those that kill people or the planet.
Here’s the chain of events:
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You asked me a question
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I answered it
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You downvoted me after completely misunderstanding the point and still not understanding anything I said or why I said it, despite you being the one that asked me to explain it.
Why in the absolute fuck wouldn’t I block you immediately so I never accidentally answer one of your questions again?
Like, I don’t even know what the fuck you’re doing.
Why ask me to explain something, agree that it’s plausible, but down vote the answer I took the time to type just to help you because you said you couldn’t understand something
Well, you know, the question was why that guns topic is so much more important than all the other atrocities going on. You see the relation in there? This idea of “I get there’s topic A, but why the fuck would that matter more than actually relevant topics B through ZZ?” Any relevant answer would thus have to establish some relation between A and any other topic and maybe generalise this relation a bit.
Your answer was “guns and v8 make dick hard”. More or less. Which is a not too elaborate but somewhat fair statement in itself, but, you know, kind of absolutely doesn’t answer my question. Alas, you missed the topic. Happens to the best. But don’t get all mad if you don’t get your upvote then, pal.
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