(Not sure if this is worldwide or only in some countries)

Updating to iOS 26.4DB2 will put your phone into a parental-restricted mode with adult websites blocked on all browsers, warning prompts every time you try to send or receive an explicit image on a messaging app, and all social media apps blocked on the App Store (in Australia)

The settings to disable this mode are locked off until you verify your age either with a credit card, photo ID, or though information Apple already has (like the age of your account).

I’ve been an apple user my entire adult life but this might finally be the thing that forces me off the platform. Do any other long term apple users have some tips about migrating? I’ve heard Ashai Linux is pretty good on mac hardware these days and I’ve been thinking about GrapheneOS for a while.

  • StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    4 hours ago

    I know this isn’t the point of the article, but I’m starting to get really pissy about software updates implementing high-level non-security related changes to my fucking fully paid for device!

    It doesn’t do anything but I’m starting to refuse to agree to any new user agreements.

    It’s pretty much nothing.

    I have 3 different AI agents that were forced onto my phone between Google, Samsung, and Microsoft.

    • freedickpics@lemmy.mlOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 hours ago

      It’ll be baked into the ToS somewhere but I agree it’s bullshit. Years ago I bought a youtuber downloader app (I know I should’ve just used yt-dl) and they released an update that removed support for half the websites and locked them behind a new higher-priced tier. None of it was mentioned in the changelog, just a prompt that came up after you’d installed the new build. I was able to reinstall the previous version and keep using it but I was still so pissed off

  • mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    15 hours ago

    its been 4 months and I am not regret about my switch to GrapheneOS. The only thing that can make this 100% perfect is creating a Google account that does not tie to your phone number.

    • freedickpics@lemmy.mlOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      14 hours ago

      So you need a phone number these days? That’s something I’ve read a lot of mixed reports about

      • hexagonwin@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        9 hours ago

        in some cases where they have good enough info about you already (creating from an android phone that isn’t “fishy” enough, etc), you can create a google acc without associating a phone number, at least it’s not shown on the google account info menu.

      • mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        14 hours ago

        yes some Play store apps are country specific so instead of switching my default country, which stupid Google only allows 1 per year btw, I want to create different profiles with different Google accounts. You cannot do that without showing that these accounts belong to whichever phone number you have

  • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    22 hours ago

    I love how big corp is already ready. It’s almost as if they somehow knew all along that all the govs with bribable legislators would be making laws they all seemed to arbitrarily adopt at once. Can’t wait for the shill AI slop response to this comment making it seem like a good idea.

  • sudoer777@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    34
    ·
    1 day ago

    So now California has a governor pretending to be pro-Palestine to do damage control while signing laws that give Zionist corporations more control over your data and hardware

  • thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    1 day ago

    “Must be outside of California, Colorado, and Brazil to download this Linux ISO”

    “Must be outside of California, Colorado, and Brazil to proceed with installation”

    • freedickpics@lemmy.mlOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      14 hours ago

      I sure as hell didn’t vote for them. But regardless of the government these laws always seem to have bipartisan support. I’ve avoided this crap so far with VPNs and fake IDs but something baked into the OS like this I haven’t been able to fool. Yet

  • sen@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    1 day ago

    Wait, send explicit images? I’m not a child, I get that on these platforms my privacy is pretty well gone, but is it explicitly known (confirmed from the source) that these companies scan your images too?

    That feels extra fucked up. Like "hold on a sec bucko let me check this photo you’re trying to send real quick to make sure it’s not titties "

  • 64bithero@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    239
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 days ago

    I find it odd to protect children they will stalk the hell out of us but won’t arrest known pedophiles …

    I hate the world

    • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      1 day ago

      Also they’ll deny trans kids puberty blockers which are proven to be safe and reversible, and the alternative creates harm.

      And they’ll censor the internet for ‘children’ (a 17 year old is not a child) to prevent them finding community, support or education outside their IRL religious and harmful bubbles.

      It was never about actually protecting children

      • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        54
        ·
        2 days ago

        Exactly. Governments around the world, including the U.S., of course, have made it crystal clear through their actions that they don’t give a fuck about protecting children.

    • lukaro@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      2 days ago

      Yeah apparently it’s fine for them to fuck kids but too immoral to risk kids seeing people fucking.

    • Sims@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      51
      ·
      2 days ago

      Better to just hate the whole Epstein Class. They trash the world for everyone else…

      • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        29
        ·
        2 days ago

        We’ve had a name for them for the last 200 years: the capitalist class, or to be more precise, the haute bourgeoisie. The 1% of the 1%.

    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      33
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      If everyone voting for these age requirements don’t also vote to require you to use an ID to unlock the safety on a gun or remove a knife from the knife rack, they aren’t voting on this to protect the children.

      Knives and guns need age verification before someone seeing Kate Upton showing her breasts.

      Im going side with none of it needs age verification, and all of it needs parental guidance

    • freedickpics@lemmy.mlOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 day ago

      You think this isn’t coming to other devices? Google will presumably add this to Android and apps will follow suit by looking to the OS to verify your age so other forks will probably have to add it. Linux on smartphones is dead in the water so what’s the alternative?

    • AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      44
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      Lmao good fucking luck enforcing this on Linux. There’s no central authority to handle age verification, and even if there was, it’d take less than a week for someone to make a patched version of whatever tool they use that just… Autoreports that you’re an adult no matter what.

      • quips@slrpnk.net
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        32
        ·
        2 days ago

        I suggest simply never complying. Anyone who does is a traitor. This is FOSS, they have no control over us, ZERO power to enforce compliance.

        • kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          20
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          2 days ago

          I suggest simply never complying.

          While this is the best. it is not feasible. Not many open source projects can just pay millions on fines and not think about it. Idiots making these laws cant enforce it but they will try in the only way they know. Fine and fine and fine untill a project dies.

          • maturelemontree@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            1 day ago

            Forgive my confusion but could they not choose to lock out web traffic without a verification? Lets say your ISP joins and says that you need x bullshit token from the government to us it, then what?

          • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            21 hours ago

            Something in gut hub can still be “in development.” Nobody has to comply with every regulation before they are finished. Goddamn these vultures. They’ve been nonstop since SOPA and PIPA back in 2010 or whenever.

          • quips@slrpnk.net
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 day ago

            How would they have to pay any fines if they simply say we are no longer for use in xyz place doing age verification?

            Second, how would payment be enforced when there is no organization to fine?

  • 7112@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    125
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 days ago

    This is insane. They have to view your images to deem of they are explicit…

    Basically a year away from a universal internet ID that will track all movements and can be restricted if your government doesn’t like you.

        • Zephorah
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          19 hours ago

          Who was the guy several years ago who was charged with child pornography for receiving a pic of his infant son’s rash for the doctor on his phone? Was that not iCloud via Apple scanning for questionable images?

          Something I heard on the old OSINT podcast years ago.

          • degen@midwest.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 hours ago

            Apple also said its anti-CSAM tool will not allow the company to see or scan a user’s photo album. It will only scan photos that are shared on iCloud.

            The system will look for matches, securely on the device, based on a database of hashes of known CSAM images provided by child safety organisations.

            Scanning yes, viewing no.

            I remember hearing about that though. On first glance that shouldn’t be possible with what apple says they do. I feel like there was another detail I can’t recall that made more sense of it, but maybe not.

            • Zephorah
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              2 hours ago

              Hey degen, I’ve got your journal in my hands right now. It’s ok though, I promise only to look at the cover and not read it. You’re cool with that right?

      • Fred@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        31
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        They probably do it for people like Donald and all his Epstein friends to save and pre order.

      • 7112@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        22
        ·
        2 days ago

        Has this expanded from iCloud uploads? It’s crazy how using a device now requires users to allow company full access yo everything.

        • Zephorah
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          16
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 days ago

          I guess I never believed it was limited to iCloud.

      • joelfromaus@aussie.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        2 days ago

        Do they though? As a side note, I read the documentation for the proposed system of scanning and it was actually really well designed for privacy. The problem was if they were forced to expand the scope to include other material such as, for example, proof of protest against a regime.

        • Zephorah
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 day ago

          Com’n. All loss of privacy is a foot on the door to access more.

      • LordCrom@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 day ago

        For a phone sim…of course you do. I mean they would know who pays the bill anyway right? Unless you have a phone company that takes bitcoin or cash only.

        • freedickpics@lemmy.mlOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          1 day ago

          Phone companies are required to collect and retain IDing info of customers to activate a phone number in Australia. There’s no way around it unfortunately

      • Auli@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        They already are. Well depends on who they are I guess but someone is.

        • CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          1 day ago

          This would be pre vpn or anything else you could do to protect your privacy - if it’s at the OS level it’s before the browser and VPN level

          That’s not happening now, but it’s the only way the are gonna be able to to check content to make sure “ the children are safe “

    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      2 days ago

      That was already happening, as the option to block sending and receiving of such content was able to be turned on in your screen time settings, and you could mandate it for your children by managing your kids accounts on the family organizers device. If someone is under the age of 13 they are required to be on a family share, and if you don’t have “Ask to Buy” enabled, from what I know you won’t get a refund for anything with the excuse my kid bought this without permission.

      Overall it all seems logical, but in those scenarios the ages and requirements are mostly all controlled by the parent.

      • 7112@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        2 days ago

        Scary. I had no idea it went beyond the iCloud scans. I avoided the cloud after that celebrity image leak.

        Guess we might see a rise in offline or dumb devices. I wonder how this will affect other nations that already have restrictive internet access. If the US West becomes more locked down where would free and accessible info go?