Atlantic doesn’t want what’s best for you anymore than Netanyahu. This is best outcome, and it’s already taking too long.
He can’t leave situation because Israel won’t let him
There will never be a deal
He has no endgame. He’s planning to remain in power until he nom-noms his last Big Mac, whether that’s tomorrow or 10 years from now. Unless he goes very soon, he’s also going to set things up for Junior to assume power. All it will take is a very loose interpretation of the Insurrection Act.
His endgame is to loot what he can and destroy the rest.
Trump is like 100 years old. There is no endgame but dying pretty soon, there is only the mental disorder of some kind of horder syndrom, accumulating resources he does not really need for no good reason.
I disagree. Whilst he does have mental issues, it has more to do with enriching the people who have the power to protect him another 4 years so he can avoid jail, forcibly leave a mark (he’s insecure) and rile people up, as a backup plan so he can claim he can’t be kicked out because it’s war time
Money isn’t a hoarding disease at this point, it’s a way to avoid accountability
Surrender?
Nobody is going to do anything to him. They‘re all too spineless.
That’s fine. Now sieze his assets and force him into a nursing home.
…a nursing home in a prison.
His end game is to make a lot of money. And he’s doing that.
He doesn’t care what happens to the poor in either country
According to one U.S. official, Netanyahu’s “hair was on fire” after the call with Trump—for good reason. The Iran war may end up as the single most devastating blow to Israel’s security in its brief history
Hahahaha.
remembers Bibi started all this
Hahahahahahahahahaha
We still want the epstien files you fat pedo. Losing a war won’t make anyone forget.
Competitive-Nihilism, aka “mass shootings” DOES NOT SURRENDER:
IT FINISHES THE JOB.
Idiots & ignorants who “go along with” their captor, until they’re IN the already-prepared-for-their-butchery secondary crime scene … get butchered…
Project-2025 IS the secondary-crime-scene.
There is no endgame in the US except dictatorship, now,
partly because the Dem-establishment WON’T know the actual-fact of the trajectory!
& the Americas are going to be butchered-down as a result of this…
ICE is Netanyahu’s “Israel”/IDF-in-Gaza, remapped into the US - https://youtu.be/qhZBVLQK9MU
ICE’s new Crematoriums - https://youtu.be/aBMJOAUMb5U ( I’ve been telling people that these were coming for weeks, now )
Canada Greenland-caged by Trump for vanquishing - https://youtu.be/wYc8pL9joqk ( I’ve been telling people this was their strategy for over half a year )
The evidence exists, but ignoring-it … protects the establishment-religion’s identity-comfort.
Until Trump finally crosses the tippingpoint, rips civilrights out from under everybody, & seals the borders for complete-reconfiguring, & PURGEs, as new-dictators all need to…
53% complete, according to this: https://www.project2025.observer/en
( the fact that it’s only 1/2-complete ought put profound terror in any US-citizens who’re still wanting to survive the next decade )
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Without Americans noticing the magnitude of this defeat?
Oh… no shit. He won that metal. Imagine advancing the decline of the world’s leading empire by decades, if not centuries. Imagine all the indoctrinated, enslaved, and coerced souls who gave their blood, sweat, and tears to put the US where it was. The magnitude of the defeat is staggering. Asking an American for a status report would be like asking a tribe of moles burrowed in Mt. Everest how a recent snowstorm changed the topology of the mountain. They don’t fucking know. They can tell you the cost of oil has gone up, though.
Let’s be real, there’s no way the collapse of pax Americana was going to take centuries
The collapse of Pax Americana will take decades, not centuries. 1 century? Perhaps, but not centuries
Decades??? Come now, you’re being overly generous. The collapse of this nightmare will be fast and violent, with lots of screaming and ruin. We might see it by the end of THIS decade.
Yeah, I agree
Move fast and break things
To be fair, betting on the apathy and cowardice of the US voter base is a pretty safe bet, and a bet that’s served him well so far.
Apathy is a poor turn of phrase for a fascist takeover.
The problem in the US isn’t apathy. ICE doesn’t seem apathetic. The military doesn’t seem apathetic. Silicon Valley doesn’t seem apathetic. Wall Street doesn’t seem apathetic. The billionaire class is engaged and has financed an enormous army of brownshirts to flatten dissent.
Meanwhile, people are fighting and dying on the streets. Parades of people march in opposition. Blossoming networks of activists inform on and undermine the state. Lone wolves even take pot shots at the President.
There’s apathy and complicity in the senior leadership of the opposition. But they’re a fraction of a fraction of the agents involved in the conflict.
So many people (or bots, but especially on reddit) get their panties in a bunch when you say the DNC is not your friend. They are complicit. There are a handful of politicians that caucus with Dems that I really believe are fighting for the little guy, but the party as a whole loves the power/wealth the ruling class is gaining through the fascist takeover.
Eh, I dunno. I don’t think the DNC is my “friend”, but I also recognize that the harm caused by democrats is a paltry fraction of that caused by republicans, and I do find it offensive when people equate them, its absolutely lying and I absolutely consider it harmful.
I may be against the existence of the state, but I can also recognize that one choice gets way more people hurt and killed that I don’t want to see hurt or killed.
Just because I recognize that the US is a poor excuse for a democracy doesn’t mean I won’t try and make use of the currently available mechanisms to prevent additional people from being hurt and/or killed. I’m not into the accelerationist bullshit.
I think part of the problem is that many of the people who complain about democrats absolutely will call them fully equal to republicans, which just makes them seem like an idiot that isnt worth listening to because of how separated from reality those comments are.
As bad as in certain situations? Sure. Overall? LOL no.
But just as some people will complain that I just wrote “whole ass paragraphs”, nuance doesn’t often play well on social media (including the fediverse) compared to “strong stances against!!!” whatever thing, which just furthers the divide rather than expanding the further left.
Just my opinion of course.
Why do you think all these bills that would substantively improve peoples lives always fails by just 1 vote, and it’s always a different person? Have you ever heard of the rotating villain method? They all figure out what to do and then make the voting look like they were trying so hard but just failed.
If I had to pick between these two dogshit parties, I would pick D every time, but the party as a whole doesn’t give a shit about you, they care about power and wealth. They just happen to have a little better messaging than Republicans. By the way that’s most politicians everywhere.
The Dems (neolibs) want the 1990s. They don’t want an oligarchy, and they’re (mostly) not complicit, with a few exceptions.
The Dems, as a whole, have never taken the kind of power that Trump has. Partly because it’s damaging to the country, and partly because it’s blatantly illegal.
The Dems also haven’t had 8 years of cutting internal opposition in primaries. In fact, after the whole Bernie/Hillary thing the Dems went in the opposite direction of that. That’s what you all wanted.
You wanted the party to have less control. The party now has less control, and you’re all :shocked Pikachu: that they’re not able to whip every single member in line.
(Progressives want to fix problems, not just return us to the 1990s. We can do better.)
The problem in the US isn’t apathy. ICE doesn’t seem apathetic. The military doesn’t seem apathetic. Silicon Valley doesn’t seem apathetic. Wall Street doesn’t seem apathetic. The billionaire class is engaged and has financed an enormous army of brownshirts to flatten dissent.
Yes, those are acting… the apathetic ones are the US Voters as OP pointed out
Meanwhile, people are fighting and dying on the streets. Parades of people march in opposition. Blossoming networks of activists inform on and undermine the state. Lone wolves even take pot shots at the President.
There have been 2 large marches… on weekends. For the first one, the rapist king literally send a video shitting on the protesters, that should have made it clear a weekend protest would mean nothing.
Yes, some Minnesotans did rally harder, not on weekends, and weakened ICE stance… maybe the rest of the country should learn from them and not wait until it’s literally life or death as Minnesotans did
Even if the people of the USA who claim to hate this regime bothered to do a free act en mass, like closing your Meta and Xitter accounts, it would be noticeable… alas, nothing of significance can be done and all we (the rest of the world) get from Americans is some victim complex cry
the apathetic ones are the US Voters
We’ve repeatedly hit record high turnout during Presidential cycles, even in the face of widespread disenfranchisement.
There have been 2 large marches… on weekends.
Far more than two. They’re heavily underreported, but I see (and periodically participate in) marches and rallies at Houston City Hall twice a month, easy.
Even if the people of the USA who claim to hate this regime bothered to do a free act en mass, like closing your Meta and Xitter accounts
Slacktivism Will Save Us
Dude, please touch some grass
We’ve repeatedly hit record high turnout during Presidential cycles, even in the face of widespread disenfranchisement.
If you are referring to voter turn out, still the largest group belongs to those who could but did not vote
Far more than two. They’re heavily underreported, but I see (and periodically participate in) marches and rallies at Houston City Hall twice a month, easy.
Happy to fill my brain with this good news if you can provide any source
Slacktivism Will Save Us
Definitely would be more efficient than just slacking…
Dude, please touch some grass
As soon as your rapist dictator stops killing people around the world, I will take a day off… I know this is likely not something that causes you ANY concern but in this last year, literally tens of thousands of people have been slaughtered by your country’s actions with not even a flimsy justification for it
Happy to fill my brain with this good news if you can provide any source
Makes a declaration with no substance, is refuted, asks for a source.
What’s your .ml/hexbear account?
What’s your .ml/hexbear account?
This isn’t a Tankie. They’re a TurboLib.
What is that?
How can you tell?
Buddy, you claimed, with no source, that there are protests twice a month. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt but would like some evidence of your claim
No, no — see you made the declaration that no protests are happening. Do you understand what the burden of proof means? You made the declaration, they refuted it using 0 sources because you didn’t provide any sources for your claims.
Because you don’t have any.
Edit: oh, I looked into the protests they mentioned — they’re absolutely happening, so not only do they not need to provide sources because you are arguing in bad faith, they don’t need to because what they’re saying is true.
Apathy is a poor turn of phrase for a fascist takeover.
I don’t think it is, fascism always rears its ugly head when the general public becomes apathetic about their government’s leadership. It’s dependent on people being fed up over political stagnation, offering people easy and decisive solutions for complicated problems.
ICE doesn’t seem apathetic. The military doesn’t seem apathetic. Silicon Valley doesn’t seem apathetic. Wall Street doesn’t seem apathetic. The billionaire class is engaged and has financed an enormous army of brownshirts to flatten dissent.
Ice is filled with losers who are apathetic about not being handed some fantasy version of a trad life they think they deserve for simply existing.
The military is honestly probably more apathetic about their current situation in Iran and current leadership than they’ve been prob since Vietnam.
Really the only people who aren’t apathetic are the billionaires, who will prob become a little apathetic once their AI bubble burst.
Meanwhile, people are fighting and dying on the streets. Parades of people march in opposition. Blossoming networks of activists inform on and undermine the state. Lone wolves even take pot shots at the President.
Like what, less than one percent of the country? When people are speaking of the mood of the country, they typically aren’t specifying the outliers. Most Americans are just upset with trump about gas prices.
fascism always rears its ugly head when the general public becomes apathetic
Historically, it’s reared it’s head when people were the most energized
It depends on what part of the timeline you are evaluating. Apathy is the environment that allows fascism to take root, and fascist promising to dispel apathy is how they secure their power base.
Hitler’s rise in power happened after years of apathy following the German defeat in WW1. Yes, there were socialist and fascist outliers fighting in the streets of Berlin. However the vast majority of the population were center right and apathetic about the bureaucratic nature of the Reichstag.
Apathy is the environment that allows fascism to take root
That’s simply not true. Liberalism thrives under apathy. But when locals become active and begin to resist liberal rules, the fascists operate as a political counter to popular leftism.
Whether it’s Franco’s Spain or Pinochet’s Chile or Park’s Korea, fascism is a social tool to mobilize a population against itself at the height of unrest.
Hitler’s rise in power happened after years of apathy
Hitler came to power amidst decades of riots, strikes, and mass migrations.
Nothing about Germany in the 1920s was apathetic except the failing Hindenburg government. The people were in the streets - for good or ill - nearly constantly.
That’s simply not true. Liberalism thrives under apathy. But when locals become active and begin to resist liberal rules, the fascists operate as a political counter to popular leftism.
I would say liberalism creates the apathy that leads to populism on both the left and the right.
Whether it’s Franco’s Spain or Pinochet’s Chile or Park’s Korea, fascism is a social tool to mobilize a population against itself at the height of unrest.
I think that’s a bit of a reductive way to view how fascism develops. Calling it a social tool implies that there is some kind of puppet master wielding it. In reality most of the time fascism is just aided by liberals who think they can control or ally with them because they often share cultural similarities. However there are also examples of liberals, and leftist of all types creating popular fronts against aspiring fascist regimes.
Hitler came to power amidst decades of riots, strikes, and mass migrations.
Again, you are referencing a tiny portion of the population. You are also misconstruing the time in which these events occured. The origins of the Nazi party developed from the DAP, which was started in 1919 as an ultra nationalist, antisemitism, and anti communist party. In 1928 they only had less than 3 percent of the vote. It wasn’t until after the great depression began that they started to actually become more popular with regular German people.
From their origins to their popularization there were oppositional riots and strikes from the left, but from a relatively small portion of the public, mostly in Berlin. However the majority of the public were still mostly center left and center right parties who were uninterested in confronting the rise of political violence from the right. From 1918-1933 there were over 350 political assassination committed by the right compared to around 20 from the left, and the left were generally prosecuted to a much higher degree.
liberalism creates the apathy that leads to populism
Populism isn’t apathetic. Again, just the opposite. Populists are activists, practically by their nature.
Whether you’re rallying to block deportations or throwing a riot over vaccines, the accusation that you’re apathetic flies in the face of your views and actions.
I think that’s a bit of a reductive way to view how fascism develops. Calling it a social tool implies that there is some kind of puppet master wielding it.
Call it a technique then. But national media and the political elite blaming migrants, religious minorities, and social progressives for economic woes is nothing new.
Again, you are referencing a tiny portion of the population.
You’re thinking of what you see on the nightly news as the sum total of all activity.
For every BLM protest reported on there were dozens that never got mention. For every MAGA rally or Tea Party event, dozens flew under the radar.
I’ve been to events with thousands of people that never got a peep of coverage. And I’ve watched riots in real time that barely earned a minute of footage on the local channels.
is more than just a quip.
The origins of the Nazi party developed from the DAP, which was started in 1919
The same year Rosa Luxembourg was assassinated after leading the Sparticus Uprising. Two years after the Russian Revolution kicked off next door.
Hardly a dull era for German politics
It wasn’t until after the great depression began that they started to actually become more popular with regular German people.
They were jockeying for position among half a dozen different radical and reactionary movements. Hitler had gone to prison attempting a coup - Germany’s own J6 style event - years earlier. Meanwhile, Communists, Anarchists, Liberals, and Conservatives were engaged in foreign sponsored street fights across the country.
What the Nazis achieved was an effective paramilitary that could operate with impunity in a country that was in the grip of a low key civil war.
but from a relatively small portion of the public, mostly in Berlin
Again, that’s simply not true. The Beer Hall Putsch of '23 was in Munich, not Berlin. The Hamburg Uprising happened that same year, in an event known as German October (intended to be a parallel to the Russian October Revolution six years earlier). Blutmai, in '29, was in Berlin, but it was far from the only event leading up to the '33 dictatorship.
You had lower key actions and oppositions happening across the country. The Cuno Strikes, for instance, were nationwide.
From 1918-1933 there were over 350 political assassination committed by the right compared to around 20 from the left
There were over 3000 strike actions in 1918. How many of those were organized by right leaning parties?
Yeah, man. It’s entirely on the apathy of voters and nothing to do with 107 years of locking up or killing any one to the left of Bernie Sanders, villianizing socialism/communism, defunding higher education, and attributing every success to capitalism and every failure on socialism.
Like, Christ on bikes man. The US was Europe’s sin eater, taking all of the expectation for running the global hegemony of capitalism while Europe was forced to spend money on rebuilding. Y’all got to retreat with the ill gotten gains of empire, had enough space to force concessions on quality of living, and didn’t have jackboots on your necks. Meanwhile, we became the fucking world police, with a double serving of fuck the little guys at home.
Yeah, voting for these fuckers had nothing to do with it
The article also speculates that Trump’s surrender in Iran could be very bad for Israel, thanks to Iran’s control of the Straight of Hormuz:
In a phone call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday, Trump reportedly explained that the United States was negotiating a “letter of intent” with Iran that would “formally end the war and launch a 30-day period of negotiations” on Iran’s nuclear program and the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz. The purpose and effect of such an agreement should be clear: The United States is walking away from the crisis.
According to one U.S. official, Netanyahu’s “hair was on fire” after the call with Trump—for good reason. The Iran war may end up as the single most devastating blow to Israel’s security in its brief history. On the present trajectory, Iran will emerge from the conflict many times stronger and more influential than it was before the war. It will exercise leverage with dozens of the richest nations in the world, all of which will have an acute interest in keeping Iran happy. They will be unlikely to take Israel’s side in any conflict that it has with Tehran or with its proxies in Lebanon and Gaza, because Iran will have the means to punish them if they do. Israel will emerge more isolated than it has been at any time in its history—and not least from its only reliable protector, the United States. When Trump turns his back on Israel, as he must do to implement this policy, MAGA will gladly follow. The bipartisan anti-Israel consensus in the United States will grow and harden.
Good. Anything that hurts Israel, gives Palestinian citizens another day to breathe and live.
will grow and harden
From what I remember about dominionism, they need isreal to exist again so that it can be destroyed. I wonder if this is the rug pull
Drump will go down as one of the worst presidents in US history.
The worst by a long shot, and some of them were real sacks of shit.
He’s already entrenched in last place, according to historians, who generally like to wait at least a decade before making these judgemental. With Trump, they don’t need the waiting period, or even for his term to end. He is already OBJECTIVELY the worst president in history. All he’s going to do now is set a new record for how bad a president can be.
Gonna take awhile though. Reagan fucked the country pretty hard and he never showed up in my HS textbooks.
Absolutely. The MAGA regime could only have existed because of the damage Reagan did. https://youtu.be/l7dHvqA-WB4
He was 45 and 47, so he’ll go down as the two worst presidents in US history
For now. Bush was the worst once and nobody expected worse.
That’s quite the understatement. He’s actively sabotaging the entire planet.
Nero didn’t set fire to the city, he just fiddled himself as it burnt. Trump? He pissed kerosene and lit the match.
Odds are, Trump will be considered the worst leader of a major nation in human history.
He already did that. Now it appears as though he is aiming to be the last.
Already has. Just when you think no one could be worse than reagan.
“Drump will go down as
one ofthe worst presidentsin history”… twice.
FTFY.
Trump’s Endgame is always a test of just how stupid America can be … and that is the key to his success - the near bottomless pit of American idiocy
America is difficult to underestimate.
“You ain’t seen nothing yet” always works when it comes to the US.
