If it weren’t mainly a rural vs. urban split, I’d be all for the fascists getting their own country to ruin. But we’re too spread out to make it feasible.
Don’t threaten me with a good country.
Greene on Monday described these actions as a threat against Trump’s “mandate.”
That mandate calls for actions Democratic states must accept, Greene argued, such as the mass deportation of “illegal invaders” and preventing trans children from playing sports.
The funny thing is that MTG is getting less and less of a “mandate” from GA-14 for all of her crap: In 2020 she got 74.6 percent of the vote, in 2022 she got 65.9, and in 2024 she got 64.4. Keep it up Marge.
Still way, way, way too high for a white supremacist goblin in human form to get.
Yeah, but she mainly represents white supremacist goblins in human forms.
A republican flip flopping on states rights again? I’m shocked.
How is it not illegal for her to say these things? Like is that a threat against the United States?
A known traitor threat against the United States was allowed to run for and be elected president. This country doesn’t have laws except for the poor and it certainly doesn’t have a functioning system of justice or even government at this point.
Depends.
Protected by the first amendment, one can legally advocate for the dissolution of the Union through bicameral ratification outlined constitutionally. To advocate for armed insurrection or violent overthrow of the federal government is sedition and considered quite illegal.
“illegal” is rather a quaint notion.
Is it really illegal if the law isn’t enforced? Is anything a Republican does illegal anymore?
I’ve always loved this quote about conservatism:
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition: there must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
- Francis M. Wilhoit
Honestly, with what I’m genuinely concerned is going to happen, that would probably be preferable. Give everyone some notice, and we can escape the nutjobs by being homeless in California and New York instead of concentrated in camps in Florida and Georgia. I mean, it’ll inevitably make the blue state nation more conservative as they blame southern refugees for all their problems, but it’d still be better more than likely
Don’t threaten me with a good time lady.
Right? The country is split basically 50. This seems like the obvious thing to do.
So they know that Texas doesn’t have a GDP high enough to even run all their red catastrophies, right? I’m kidding, I know they don’t know. They probably also don’t know that CA would be the third largest super power if they ever let us go. Which they won’t. At all.
California should secede and kick off the great (terrible) balkanization of the formerly united states
NCR & The North East republic
Vs
Yeehawistan
Californians are in an abusive relationship. Blamed for everything and not allowed to leave
And we pay them more money than we use for ourselves.
Just let us have our fires in peace damnit!
I don’t know, they are certainly close to dumb enough to sign off on it. Or, you know, we can just do it and ignore the rules since they are all so fond of that now.
Now that I am no longer in FL and live in a blue state… cool, I like the idea but I’m not a fucking traitorous asshole to my country. When are we putting this bitch up on the gallows?
I mean… as long as California takes Colorado and New Mexico with it, I see no real issues with that. We get the economy, the nature, and the nukes.
Something that I learned recently makes this flag make absolutely no sense.
The bear on the flag of The Republic of California, is extinct, and has been since the 1920s. Therefore in the Fallout universe, that bear is also extinct. None of them could have mutated into the two headed version. Where the heck did this flag come from?
We’ll bring along Oregon and Washington, at least the west halves, and call the country the Collective of American States.
Sounds good to my rainy ears here in Seattle 😎
Lets go for the Fallout 2 version I want to annoy everyone.
I have never seen this version before. This flag makes even less sense than the standard NCR flag.
Yep. Best Christmas present they could offer.
Do it. Push her harder.
…yeah, ok. Sounds good.
moves to California
I’ve got “Hotel California” and “San Francisco” battling it out in my head now.
California Girls. And I’m not specifying which one
How about Going to California?
“someone told me there’s a girl out there, with love in her eyes and flowers in her hair”
Damn is that a great little tune, such a warm sound too
The fact that ya didnt list California Dreamin annoys me.
The mamas and papas make me want to punch myself when I hear them.
Two of the worst ones.
Such a lovely choice. /s
They both somehow fit the situation.
It’ll never happen. US Military would never willingly split itself apart, let itself get split apart, or let another nation that it’s not allied with have any sort of Army on its equivalent. The 50 states are here to stay.
Never say never. The domestic terrorists/agents of Putin are aching for an actual shooting civil war.
Even a peaceful division of the US would be something they would seriously benefit from. The US permanently divided against itself, each side easy to manipulate into a military conflict against the other. We would have nukes pointed at each other within a decade. It would be like the splitting of India and Pakistan, along with all the accompanying human rights atrocities.
<General Sherman claws his way out of the grave.>
Sherman should have kept burning the traitors.
Dude should have gone west after Savannah, Atlanta has its shit mostly together now
Cop City not withstanding
Agreed, but that seems more a reaction to the progress than a symptom of it not happening.
The US military is going to be replaced by Trump loyalists. Whatever he wants to happen is what’s gonna happen.
I doubt it. He can barely run his shit past the civilian government. I’d be surprised if he knows that the UCMJ exists. The brass aren’t going to just fall in line, they know what an illegal order is, and what to do when they are given one.
He may manage to be the first POTUS that is ever told by the military that they have no confidence in him, and will refuse to take orders from him.
It’s expansive here in the places you may want to live, but seriously… It’s worth it. There’s also a lot of cheap places that aren’t as ideal.
that’s not… usually what you do win you win. so like… honestly… okay, kick me out, let me be governed by a saner government. also DC is between two blue state so good luck evacuating back to your conservative safe space, dumbass
I’m literally moving to a blue state. The one good idea she had I beat her to it. Peace idiots.
Predictable. The donvict-humpers supposedly “win”, and then get even MORE angry. Why so angry?
I suspect it’s because for this brief period of time, anyway, it’s hard for them to avoid just how HATED they and their precious golden donvict truly are. They thought they’d “win” and all the normal Americans around them would just disappear. And yet, Karens like Green continue to get confronted by normal people.
The donvict-humpers supposedly “win”, and then get even MORE angry. Why so angry?
Because we’ve stolen their martyrdom from them by losing.
This is outrageously anecdotal but the trumpers I know were all grins on the day after until they realized we weren’t gonna just get over this and they just labeled themselves. They seem pissy now, and one in my office in particular that used to chat with me about sports is really broken up I don’t want to anymore
They seem pissy now, and one in my office in particular that used to chat with me about sports is really broken up I don’t want to anymore
Yeah, the Professional Left did an entire section about this and they mentioned the case where some husband is completely gobsmacked that his wife filed for divorce.
But yeah, I’ve seen the same thing and heard about it from others. Lots of quiet interactions about how so and so is a big proponent of donvict; don’t invite him/her to {whatever social function}.
The refrain of “yeah, but let’s just agree to disagree” - I can see why many people, especially those most at risk thanks to what they wan, are thinking: “YEAH, FUCK THAT. You just voted to harm me, and you want to act like it’s just a disagreement?”
Why so angry? It’s all they know…
California would do so much better on its own I feel like
Blue states pay more in taxes than they receive, and vice versa with red states. We are literally funding them dragging us all backwards.
5th largest economy on the planet by itself.
Russia has a smaller economy. Go ahead. Make it without us. Dumb fucks.
Can… can Washington come? The western half at least?
Washington and Oregon are basically Very Northern California.
Most of the Western states would probably end up joining overall. I dont see Idaho lasting too long being one of the few remaining states that far west for example.
