She says a lot more but my eye rolling made me stop reading after the first five sentences
https://xcancel.com/ImBreckWorsham/status/1986436503988297774#m
LMAO. Suffer, bitch.
This is the “Turning Point USA” we need.
I get all of the comments here. I understand the anger and distain that so many of you are feeling over the current state of things. I share in many of the frustrations and anger.
But it depresses me that Trump won’t run for office again. He will be replaced by someone and the entire pool of former Trumpers will see that person and think that they can do all the things they hoped that Trump would do.
Even if Trump exits office without doing any further significant harm, the people who have made these kinds of revelations, like in the OP, will probably still vote for the same party, in spite of it all. Sure, they may never vote for Trump again, but they’ll never get the chance to anyways, so who cares?
This was calculated.
Don’t be surprised if the next candidate follows the same playbook as Trump, and don’t be surprised if the MAGA crowd falls for it again.
The only way forward, to ensure that this kind of damage is stopped, is to rally together in sufficient numbers to ensure that these folks don’t get into office any more. The absentee voters need to get out and vote.
I am confident that the numbers would work out if we could get enough people to the voting booth.
I would love (well…not really “love”) to see the rest of that tweet as I expect them to say something along the lines of “…but I still love you and believe in you and how much you love America yadda yadda”…
When exactly are children starving through their own fault?
When are adults starving through their own fault?
It’s just something to add emphasis, no need to nitpick.
A year or two ago I would have felt sorry for her.
Now I have absolutely zero sympathy.
When someone leaves a cult, ya got two choices. Accept them or reject them. If you reject them they’ll just run straight to another cult
She voted 3 times for a racist idiot. The last time she knew he was also a pedo.
I may have missed some posts, but I didn’s see a word about deportations tearing apart families. She’s cool with that. She’s angry because Trump hurt the “wrong gmoups”. He was supposed to hurt only some other groups.
Fortunately for me, I don’t live in the US, I am not a US citizen, and I don’t have to “accept her”.
I bet she will rally behind the next guy promising to hurt “others”, but posing as anti-Trump because he hurt some “good” Americans.
fall for it once or twice shame on them, for fore it more than 3 times shame on the person.
Ain’t wrong. But this is bullshit.
Agreed. Too good to be true.
Not a single phonetic-based misspelling? Such lies.
Maybe all of you on Lemmy see this and sigh, but there’s a lot of MAGA supporters out there who might need to see this.
They would most likely claim this is dem fake news and/or put the responsibility of her demise on her.
the Epstein shutdown
At least she sees it. I’m glad she does.
Pretty sure this is fake. People who don’t think so have way way more faith in these idiots than I do. The ones who do not starve to death will be voting for him in the next election.
Why would this be “the Epstein shutdown”? Sorry I’m out of the loop(non-american)
While it isn’t the full motive for the shutdown, part of the motive is likely avoiding release of the Epstine files. Currently, only one more “yes” vote is required in the House of Representatives to pass a resolution calling for the release of the files. There is a new member of the House who was elected in Arizona but she hasn’t been sworn in yet. The Speaker of the House has been delaying swearing her in for two months and has essentially shut down the House to avoid the issue. In the mean time, this means that the House is doing literally nothing to end the ongoing government shutdown.
The house isn’t the hold up in the shutdown, but the rest is accurate. House can’t help end the shutdown until the filibuster in the Senate ends. But there’s other things, like committee investigations, they could be doing.
They’re also holding up shutdown negotiations by not passing anything new that the senate can work with. They’re basically saying “do a clean CR or nothing”.
I really don’t understand how these people manage to dilute themselves into believing he’d be any different to the first time he was in office.
The fact that her username is The Patriotic Blonde really just tells you all you need to know. She’s got no personality at all, she has one character trait, and it may not be all that interesting but nonetheless, her entire life revolves around it.
The fact that her username is The Patriotic Blonde really just tells you
…that the whole thing was probably never a real person posting their actual thoughts to begin with?
Well they believed in the rationale and prescription for what he claimed to achieve so there’s a lot of scope there to forgive failure to meet targets because as they see it, there’s a mountain of opposition and sabotage standing in the way of making America great again so if what he said we was going to do didn’t happen and if the way he said he’d do it didn’t work it’s not really a challenge to either what Trump claims should be done nor how he should do it, it only highlights to supporters how difficult that task is and how strong their support needs to be.
This kind of thing, one of the duped expressing regret - I think is probably one of the most effective ways of bursting the MAGA bubble and letting at least a tiny bit or reality set in. It doesn’t challenge the things the supporters think are wrong with their country nor directly challenge the methods for remedying it, but it would introduce that little kernel of doubt for at least a few people without coming from “libtards” or in some way seeming to criticise the beliefs that led them to their current situation. She’d be dismissed of course; a paid shill no doubt, or a crisis actor or just a traitorous member of the flock who didn’t have the faith or conviction necessary, but if this kind of thing shows up a lot and gets loud enough it might stand more of a chance than any critique of MAGA or Trump if there ever was really any hope of such processes having meaningful impact.
That said, even if that worked, it’d do little to address systemic issues that gave rise to MAGA and in any case if the MAGA cultists take this gentle out without need to re-evaluate the thinking that got them there then really it’d just end up being that Trump was only bad for failing to do what he promised not because what he promised was reprehensible and how he planned to do it absurd and illogical so they’ll be prime for the picking for the next Trump hydra head to take his place.
dilute themselves
Though I don’t feel bad for her, I would argue we should try to be nice. I’d rather have her see the light for the mistakes she made than her continuing being on the side of evil
We need more people on the right side
She hasn’t changed. She’ll vote for the next Trump who they believe will be more surgical when it comes to hurting people they don’t like. This is her basically telling the party to reduce the collateral damage. The ideology that brought her to support them hasn’t changed.
It’s taken the collapse of the system for them to even notice there is a problem. Notice how she has no issue with ICE and their abuses? Her issue is that the economy isn’t doing well, and her investments are falling apart. That’s what she’s upset about.
These people are not seeing the light, they are simply upset that they are having to burden the consequences as much as the “Other™” people.
In most free societies, an individual’s political beliefs are viewed as product of their circumstance, and since circumstances change for people all the time, their politics are also expected to change. The very concept of democracy revolves around the idea that people are able to change their opinions. This idea that politics is some sort immutable personality trait is only found among authoritarians because their ideologies are so rigid that they don’t leave any room for nuance.
Your opinion here is shouldn’t even be argued. It should be the standard for any individual who genuinely believes in the concept of democracy.
She’s not and will never be an ally, she only voted to preserve her privilege with the hope of ruining the lives of those she considered undeserving. now she has lost some of her privilege, and now it is a problem for her.
That’s literally how politics is supposed to work. People are a product of circumstance, and since there are a lot of people with different circumstances that constantly change, there’s going to be a competition of power. Democracy, as a concept, exists to facilitate this competition peacefully. People vote for their best interests, and politicians compete with each other to convince voters that they understand their circumstances and will do what’s in their best interest. If a voter feels like a politicians isn’t representing them anymore, they move to a different politicians that represents them better.
You have to be some type of authoritarian to embrace the idea that people are inherently evil or their politics is immutable. If you reject the notion that people can change their views, compromise, or cooperate with each other then you’re fundamentally at odds with democracy, and YOU are the problem.
That is if you assume everyone is selfish and cares only for themselves. Solidarity exists. she only cared about herself, she did not care at all for anyone else who Trump promised to hurt.
This is not how politics works, and if no one has empathy for anyone else and only cares from themselves, then society itself wont work.
Yeah, youre just her with a different coloured shirt on, mate. Youre just a hateful, spiteful little person spewing popular buzzwords like your internet uparrows mean anything.
I mean, whats your endgame here? Round them up and deport them… You either pull your head out of your ass and accept that people are just people, and you forgive. Or, you keep on being a knob, and see where that gets you. Spoiler alert, nowhere good.
Time to put the digital pitchforks down, and start fucking talking.
You can’t even bring together people who aren’t on Trump sides, so you are failing on your messaging from the start when it comes to your big proclamation of talking it out.
You dont have to come together, you just have to stop being cunts to each other. None of you are fucking evil. Just fucking talk!
You aren’t even doing a good job of getting non Trump supporters to agree with you.
And if you don’t see supporting someone who wants to be a dictator, wants to get rid of minorities, hires white nationalists like Hegseth, threatens Canada’s independence, bombs Venezuelan boats, and has ties to the files as not evil then what exactly is evil to you?
Because a person who endorses that type of person and only complains when they are financially affected, but were happily cheering on the policies before hand sure seem evil to me. This isn’t like some disagreement about which food is better. What they fundamentally were in support of is red flags.
Its not my job to make you drink, just show you where the water is.
You dont know what the other people think or why they do the things they do. You just apply your dumb logic to people, and demote them to second class. Theres a word for people like that…
Heres a little history lesson. Just after the slaves were freed they found themselves with nothing. So they applied the skills they had, and grew Watermelon and sold it at market. They didnt just survive, they thrived. So much so that the watermelon became a symbol of Black of hope and strength to the freed slaves. The former slave owners on the other hand, didnt like that. So they started taking out ads showing black people eating watermelon like animals. And not just black people, caricatures of black people with the big lips. Inside 10 years, the watermelon was a racist symbol and struggled to sell it. Theres a story of a young boy who met his former nanny. When she left, the boy cried as he didnt want her to go. But when they met again, and the woman was over joyed to see the young boy she asked him to share some watermelon with him. His reply? “I dont eat n***** food.”.
That is the power of propaganda. And that was just local weekly/monthly newspapers. But it worked so well, that over 100 years later, the watermelon is still associated with hatred of black people, instead of the symbol of hope that it started out as. Theres a lot more than a few newspapers now. But you seem to think that because people fall for the bullshit, that make it ok to hate them. Because they werent cool like to to see through it. Cos youre the good guys… gods chosen people… or some dumb shit that allows you to look at human beings and see something beneath you.
I don’t even want to talk to you and you aren’t even as unpleasant as those who support maga ideals, so your whole just talk it out has been a failure from the onset. But, if you believe maga is even easier to talk it out and change their minds then go at it.
Nah, she is not and will never be an ally. the moment things are OK for her again she will be fine throwing us under the bus again. We need solidarity and a better country for everyone, not just for her or for “me”.
I cared when minorities who arent me were tormented. every decent human did. she did not, she celebrated and caused that.
What I want? to her to stay without friends or family and society to heal but her to die alone because everyone should know the horrors she intentionally caused on everyone.
If trump steps down and becomes broke and poor and suddenly ask for help to the poor, would you accept him?
Dude, all you did was spout popular online thing. You dont give a fuck about the people who just want to earn a living, who dont have the time to worry about everyone else. You just make some wild claim about them, never once considering their circumstances. Talk about being privileged…
I work my ass off for local mutual aid to feed those trump has left behind and it truly breaks my heart knowing I will soon won’t be able afford food for that, as I can barely afford to feed myself. That’s besides all the marches and weekly protests and organising, and canvasing…
Do you really think everyone is just selfish and cares only for themselves?
lol Sure you do. And you just cant wait to tell everyone how totally selfless you are, while at the same time wanting people reduced to 2nd class status because… you think they should.
You sound just like they people you hate. Its hilarious how clear it is, yet you just wont see it.
stop for a second. do you think I do that just so I can brag online? or do you think I’m lying? or do you think that no one would do things to help other people?
because if the last one is “no” that says more about you than you think
Was this your word choice for trying to get people to work together? Demeaning someone for demeaning someone while demanding they work together might not be the best route either. But I agree we need to find ways to build bridges or else we will never be able to make things better. As for deporting people though, there are some harsh actions that may be needed. I’m not saying it is the best route but the next president arresting supreme Court judges for taking bribes, executing them for treason without due process could cause chaos. It could also help pass legislation that makes the president not immune to illegal acts as the supreme Court ruled. It would force the legislature to make abuse of powers and more restrictions on the executive branch which to be honest, needs to have its powers shrunk drastically. The point of a Republic is for the peoples representatives to be empowered to write legislation that helps advance/give opportunities to as many people as possible supposedly “equally”, or at least fairly. But our executive branch having the ability to make executive orders completely undercuts all of that. If we don’t do away with executive orders I think if an executive order is issued it should run side by side with an impeachment. Where then they are voted on by Congress and if half of Congress votes no confidence that it was completely necessary for the safety of the nation, the President is immediately removed. (Different rules than impeachment/removal) obviously
Aka, if there is an attack or something, they can make an executive order to respond before waiting for congress, but if congress feels it was misused, they are gone. No one should care who the president is, they should be a police officer in my mind. What they arrest someone for shouldn’t be their choice, nor any punishment be their choice. If you are found to fake evidence it should also be viewed as treason. Which would make any party fight to do away with capital punishment pretty quick, because they won’t want 7 members of their party getting the electric chair when they get caught up in lying to the public, like they do daily.
You cant work with someone who’s only concern is herself. she will throw you under the bus the moment she can.
We need solidarity, not monsters who are now suffering the consequences of the policies they celebrated.
Do you think we should have mercy for the Germans who supported the Nazis and celebrated the genocide but lost everything during the war?
I am not saying to kill her, just that we should build a better world with our her consent. Let her live the rest of her life without family or friends and hated by everyone in the community.
We must work together. but we cannot work with people who have created this nightmare, who celebrated it, and are only sad when they horrors inevitable reached them. not just a moral purity stance. they will betray you the moment it benefits them.
You cannot build bridges with them, and if you do, don’t complain when they throw you under the bus.
Now that being against trump is being defined as terrorism. you cannot bring in a MAGA, because they will rat you and your friends out in hopes to regain their status.
Sorry if I am not at my most eloquent, it is late and I am very tired.
Fuck me, youre a right nazi… which kinda ironic, when you think about it…
Fuck off,
are you one of those “antifa are the real fascists”?
Actually Im more one of those, “Anyone in the culture wars is fucking spoon”. Known what I mean, spoon?
She won’t, she will betray you the moment it benefits her.
She will rat you and whoever you are organized with to the state in hopes to regain her status.
Patriotic but only to one particular citizen America as a whole can get in the bin that’s the real American patriotism
If only she had come to this realization NINE YEARS AGO
If she saw the future she’d still vote for Trump. The core ideology is something she agrees with and is happy with many of the policies being carried out. She’s just not happy about the random way it is being carried out that is leading to collateral damage to groups of her kind that weren’t supposed to be affected.
I mean better late than never. Though it should be pointed out, that her rejecting Trump doesn’t mean that her beliefs changed, just that she’s Trump for the liar that he is.
