• ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 hour ago

    Still that’s kinda rich coming from one of the world’s biggest leaders of religion, which literally encourages people to believe things without evidence and simply based on who tells them, based on unseen guidance.

  • lofuw@sh.itjust.works
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    9 hours ago

    AI is just the next form of control after businesses have already infiltrated online forums.

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    8 hours ago

    “Passive consumers of unthought thoughts”?

    You mean… like a religion brainwashes you into becoming as you’re indoctrinated?

    Maybe this guy is being decent, or maybe he just sees a threat to his monopoly?

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    13 hours ago

    I’m… What? WTF, is that headline trying to tell me that I’m experiencing an aneurysm?

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    13 hours ago

    The enemy of my enemy and all that. If dude can convince any of his followers to wake the fuck up then let the man speak; we could use the numbers.

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      12 hours ago

      “unthought thought” might replace “artificial hallucination” in my vocabulary.

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      I got mine from kultofathena.com 20 years ago for 40 bucks (though with fancier blade), but just checked and don’t think they sell it anymore.

      You can have it if you want, it’s just laying in my basement.

  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    ‘Turning people into passive consumers of unthought thoughts’

    That’s brilliant! I’m not Catholic, I’m not even religious at all, and I’ve NEVER paid attention to any Pope, but this guy is different.

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      17 hours ago

      “I’m definitely not the antichrist, so much so I go around holding events to discuss the antichrist and how I am not him.” The lack of self reflection or perhaps just plain evil is astounding

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      Look… Im sure this is not the first time the pope has been called the antichrist. It likely happened in 884, 964, 997, 1012, 1378, 1409, or 1418 to just name a few.

      (This is not be taken seriously, I grabbed a bunch of years from the Wikipedia list of antipopes to make a point when the role was contested. In the case of the ones between 1378-1418, where a bloody mess is an understatement (I would rather read history on the war of the roses), there have been significantly fewer violent disagreements regarding the title/position since then)

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        Hell I’m sure you could probably throw a bunch of even earlier dates in from back when the Catholics and Orthodox were united under the Chalcedonian Roman Church.

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      16 hours ago

      Well yeah, the pope is Antichrist.

      The whole assassination of Jesus was an inside job orchestrated be Peter to become the first pope and lead the flock astray right in the hands of the devil!

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    Turning people into passive consumers of unthought thoughts

    Interesting contrast to the church itself, which has the capacity of turning people into passive consumers of thoughts that have been painstakingly processed for centuries.

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      21 hours ago

      I don’t know about the West, but a lot of Catholic community in SEAsia (excluding PH) are not blindly following the Pope. I know a lot of people in the community instantly criticizing any form corruption or negativity.

      Even our mass regularly ask community to be more rationale in thinking.

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        I’m American ex catholic and yeah that was my childhood church. That said we also have a lot of people who convert to catholicism for the aesthetics and to crusade larp, and one of them insisted on arguing with the previous pope about basic doctrine as the old man was dying…

        So yeah, you’re supposed to listen to the pope but nobody does.

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      Pretty sure that’s their whole game. More projection, I guess. sigh

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      Those damned Catholics.

      Signed, a citizen of the culturally Protestant US, where most of us don’t even consider Catholics to be Christian

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        Isn’t that strange though? Catholics trace themselves back to the disciples (though I think Roman and Orthodox both claim this), yet the new ones that split somewhat recently claim they are the real ones.

        • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.world
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          Yes the Apostle Peter was the first Pope. Eastern Orthodoxy, Protestantism, the Evangelists etc are are offshoots that for one reason or another rejected the Pope and Canon Law.

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            Eastern Orthodoxy is not an offshoot of Catholicism. They were both the same church until the schism, when they excommunicated each other.

            The Pope traces his apostolic succession back to Peter, but the patriarchs of the Eastern Orthodox church trace theirs back to the other apostles. Originally, the various patriarchates were co-equal, until the Roman church began stylizing itself as the “first among equals” citing some obscure passage where Jesus had a bromance moment with Peter.

            The Roman church was never in a position of authority over the other patriarchates, and when the Pope began trying to assert himself that way, the other churches began distancing themselves. The actual schism happened when that tension shattered over different interpretations of one line in the Nicean Creed.

            If anything, the Roman Catholic church is an offshoot of Eastern Orthodoxy, which maintained its Ecumenical Council among the various patriarchates throughout its history.

            Calling Eastern Orthodoxy an offshoot of Roman Catholicism is a very catholo-centric and misinformed take. And citing Canon Law is silly, because Rome strayed further from the original Canons than Eastern Orthodoxy ever did.

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          It’s definitely very arbitrary! There’s plenty of other divisions within Christianity, but I’ve found it’s the more radical evangelical sect of Christianity (read: the ones in the White House) that claim Catholics aren’t Christians the hardest. I

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              Aren’t there multiple? Besides the ancient rift between Eastern and Western Catholic churches, there are also sedevacantists that seem focused on just being antisemites still (Mel Gibson’s dad had his own pseudo-Catholic church).

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    9 hours ago

    Being the head of the longest-running pedophile ring in history doesn’t give one much high ground to chastise from.

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    I mean… a religious leader accusing people of being “passive consumers of unthought thoughts”… am I the only one seeing some irony here?

    Not that I particularly disagree, but an ironic messenger.

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    “passive consumers of unthought thoughts” is an apt way of putting it. With AI, it’s so easy not to think and have it think for you, even in things that you should really want to think about because it’s entertaining.

    For example, I’ve been re-watching Game of Thrones, and I wondered how things would have changed if Joffrey had a father figure in his life that wasn’t Robert, say a teacher in swordsmanship. I could spend a lot of time thinking about how Cersei would see this teacher as a rival and want him dead, whether Robert would protect that teacher because he’s making Joffrey into more of a ‘man’, whether Joffrey being trained as a swordsman would make him braver, and even if everything happened as written up to the Blackwater, would Joffrey find his courage and go out into battle, and ultimately get killed by one of Stannis’ soldiers? What would happen to Sansa?

    Or… I could just ask ChatGPT, get a quick answer, and forget all about it.