• volvoxvsmarla @lemm.ee
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    I’m sorry but when I read “pride month is defeated” in the context of a heterosexual engagement my mind immediately assumes the dude is a closeted homosexual who chose her as his beard instead of coming out. And this is how he “defeated pride”. By choosing a heteronormative lifestyle over his actual preferences.

    The most optimistic scenario my head can come up with to make the sentence make sense would be that she’s bisexual and because of him she chose to commit to a heteronormative relationship.

    In any way, for a lack of a better term, putting your engagement in context of defeating pride makes you look quite gay.

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      I think the same about anyone who fears LGBT+ trying to convert their kids like they believe someone can be convinced to be gay rather than just convinced to accept their sexuality.

      Like I don’t see any problem with being gay but it’s not for me. I sometimes think dating would be easier if I was bi, but it’s about as appealing as knowing it would be easier to fill my stomach if I ate sawdust.

      So it’s very telling when someone talks about gays tempting them or that they worry about a gay agenda of turning everyone gay like it’s a realistic possibility.

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        A lot of the fear of “conversion” really feels like parents getting ornery because someone might “damage their property” by telling them that being gay is perfectly fine. They want to have the whole heterosexual experience they had but lived vicariously all over again through someone they can pilot through life like a little low maintenance automoton. They want to narrow the field of choices to the ones they want.

        You see it expressed all over the place. If you choose not to want kids or marry, pick a career they don’t understand or would pick for themselves they tighten the thumbscrews. So often they don’t love their kids they just love what they represent… Genetic legacy or bragging rights or a vehicle for constant validation. Being LGBTQIA+ is a threat because that represents paths that they would not have chosen. They can’t empathize or desire it…

        But estrangement has always been a thing. Kids always become adults and adults always have choices… but we never forget what it was like to be a kid without autonomy. One day that kid is going to be able to make their own choices and there’s not a thing their parent can do about it. I love and value my parents because they always treated me like my own person. I always consider their advice seriously and give them a high priority. Fillial piety is no burden when it feels like returning the support and love. It never sits uneasy. I know a lot of people who struggle because they are biologically programmed to have a bond but they just can’t because the choices their parents made amd continue to attempt to make for them has left lasting damage.

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      Those who hate homosexuals and see them as the “other side” often believe that homosexuals view heterosexuals with the same malice.

      Gay people know they’re not the norm, and don’t feel threatened by straight folk unless. They feel threatened by bigots.

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      Yeah I seriously I was about to say, as a pansexual, this guy is triggering every sensor on my gaydar, big time. He’d be a lot happier if he would just embrace who he is.

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      Yeah either of those scenarios makes me think one of them is eventually turning back to gay sex. Sure bisexuals can have lifelong monogamous relationships with people of a different gender and they often do it happily, but how happily do they tend to do it with people bragging about how they defeated their partner’s queerness?

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      The most optimistic scenario my head can come up with to make the sentence make sense would be that she’s bisexual and because of him she chose to commit to a heteronormative relationship.

      If that was the case she should be pissed that this was his reflection

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        She should be pissed in any scenario. You propose to your partner, you post a photo, and then you put ANYTHING other than I LOVE MY FIANCEE in your post? That sucks, dude.

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          Unless your fiancee is also a homophobic bigot as a central component to her personality, then she’s probably OK with it.

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    I don’t understand why anyone would want to tie an engagement to their politics. Politics was literally not even a thought when I got engaged. That man has got issues!

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      Fucking seriously. What the actual fuck is wrong with these people?

      I hate propagandists with every single fiber of my being, more than I hate absolutely anything in the entire universe, and yet I rarely think about them unless something specific comes up.

      These assholes just love to hate all the time.

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    You know, I always thought this “gay agenda” thing was ridiculous. They only want equal rights and “be left alone” essentially, right?
    But seeing this, they actually seem to successfully infiltrate the conservative mind… so maybe there is something to it? O_o

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          I’m not a big fan of straight people holding hands or kissing in public. Like, i support people doing things like that in the privacy of their home, but they don’t need to force themselves upon is and shove their straightness down our throats. Essentially, I don’t think straight people should be able to openly exist in public, since their existence is forcing it down our throats, so they should just go back into the closet.

          :::/s:::

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            It does make me a little uncomfortable to see intimate displays of affection in public. It doesn’t matter if it’s straight or gay or whatever.

            That obviously should have no effect on them. I have gotten comfortable with the discomfort, which is what people should generally do. It’s not their problem to deal with, it’s mine.

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              It does make me a little uncomfortable to see intimate displays of affection in public. It doesn’t matter if it’s straight or gay or whatever.

              I have gotten comfortable with the discomfort… it’s not their problem to deal with, it’s mine.

              100%

              As my views matured, I’ve grown to realize that forcing people to comply with the comfort of people is inherently oppressive, and that when I’m in public, I’m not entitled to complete comfort.

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          The only ones forcing anything down anyone’s throats are the cuckservitudes who can’t stop repeating the programmed bullshit culture war trash they subject themselves to.

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      All you have to do to infiltrate their minds and live rent free for a few months is open with “the libs want you to…” and just say whatever comes to mind. It’s rather easy.

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      I always imagine it like a comic: two Repubs steal a gay man’s agenda book. They open it to find the secret plot. It says, “lunch with Todd,” with a heart around it. The last panel is the Repubs shrieking and panicking.

      They definitely have some powerful delusions that they are under attack. Bigotry and Fox News feeding their fear addiction gets them to believe anything (as long as it is hateful).

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    With how much time these “macho” conservatives spend thinking about gay people, even when marrying their own wives, it sure does seem like they’re hiding something

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      Maybe all the macho conservatives need to get gay married to each other to prove that they hate it and aren’t gay. It’s the only way to be sure.

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        “Think about it guys… If we just grab ALL the dicks, and then hide them inside our bodies, they’ll be NONE left for the gay people!!! Ultimate straight win 2024!!!”

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      I swear we queers don’t spend as much time thinking about LGTB+ people as they do.

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    Don’t boast about “defeating pride” in your engagement photo unless you had to wrestle lions to get her to say yes.

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    Why would I care if straight people got engaged in June? It’s a lovely time to get engaged.

    Pride month can’t get canceled, it’s like Labor Day, if you let it be ceremonial it will, and if you don’t we won’t.

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    I am so confused. Did he think he had to marry a man because it’s pride month? I can’t ever wrap my mind around people who think letting others love who they want to somehow reduces their own freedom to love who they want to.

    Congratulations, I guess. May your children be many, and gay.

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    Pack it all up. The party’s over. Addison just proposed to his girlfriend. How will we ever survive this? Might as well just cancel gayness. Sigh.

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    Gay people, please keep being who you are. While I was never naturally inclined to fear or hate the LGBTQ+ crowd, getting to know many of them as coworkers and friends helped me to truly understand them. And unlike people who would post hate speech on social media to politicize their own wedding I have never met LGBTQ+ people that cared I was white, male, or straight.

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    I don’t think I’ve met anyone who would attend pride that would have any issue with him getting engaged to this girl.

    They’d probably cheer.

    Pride isn’t about gays as much as people think, yes, a lot of the LGBTQ+ folks show up with their gender and sexual preferences basically hanging out in the open for all to see, and that’s the point. Everyone I’ve talked to is all about being proud of who you are. Straight, gay, bi, lesbian, trans, queer, whatever. Be you. Pride is more about being who you are without prejudice, not some anti straight LGBTQ+ rave.

    This guy could have proposed in the middle of the main stage at pride and gotten cheers from people.

    Sir, your proposal didn’t defeat shit. Good luck in your future.

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      Eh, it’s more that pride is a rejection of the shame we’ve been taught to feel. But then you get into the fact that we aren’t telling straight people to be ashamed, we’re telling bigots that if anyone should be ashamed it’s them

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        I feel like that’s what I was trying to say.

        To simplify, to be at pride, you need two things: a pride in who you are and who you love, and an acceptance of others, who they are and who they love.

        In that, the OP in OP’s picture would not be unwelcome, as long as they can accept others for who they are and who they love.

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      Yeah, it’s not about your sexuality being a point of pride. It’s just about being proud of who you are as a person who is part of a minority group. Nobody’s thinking that being gay is better than being straight, they’re just trying to be proud of who they are.

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        I agree, I always feel that pride is about being open/honest/proud of who you are and who you love, and being accepting of others, in who they are and who they love.

        The specifics of who you are and who you love are not important.

        Minority or not, all are welcome as long as you can accept others for who they are and who they love.

        … With the obvious exception of relationships that are illegal… I’m specifically thinking of pedos here, but I’m sure other illegal relationships would also be unwelcome, like bestiality, I guess. IDK.